Whats wrong with Flash?

[adsum01nl]

Hi,

I've seen Flash come up quite a bit in these forums as a target for many complaints for users. I was wondering what exactly is the issue with Flash including the 64bit support, the sound issues etc. Why is such a widely adopted web app having such a difficult time? Any ideas?

[GofBorg]

> I've seen Flash come up quite a bit in these forums as a target for
> many complaints for users. I was wondering what exactly is the issue
> with Flash including the 64bit support, the sound issues etc. Why is
> such a widely adopted web app having such a difficult time? Any ideas?

From what I gather, Adobe is the spawn of Satan. HTH.

[cjcox]

adsum01nl wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I've seen Flash come up quite a bit in these forums as a target for
> many complaints for users. I was wondering what exactly is the issue
> with Flash including the 64bit support, the sound issues etc. Why is
> such a widely adopted web app having such a difficult time? Any ideas?


Well... Flash in this case means Adobe Flash. And that's proprietary. So
like any proprietary WINDOWS/MAC ONLY focused piece of software, any Linux
version is subject to bugs, problems and general apathy on the part of the
provider. Similar complaints could be made against Nvidia (in general).

With that said, there are a few free and open flash options available that
are starting to show promise. But... do we REALLY want to perpetuate a
format that can be twisted and made incompatible at will by the original
owner (Adobe)?

Adobe could care LESS if Linux users exist or not. IMHO, the only reason
they dabble with Flash for Linux is because of people on the inside of
Adobe. Linux isn't even a small part of their business plan.

[adsum01nl]

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>
>there are a few free and open flash options available that
are starting to show promise

What are these said promising open flash options? Do they have GPU acceleration?

[gogalthorp]

If you want compatibility with all the flash on the web use Adobe. I think swfdec is an open source attempt at it but don't expect 100% compatibility. Of course you could help the project by testing it and reporting problem to the developers.

[adsum01nl]

Anyone have any luck using a Gnash and Lightspark install? Lightspark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I'm assuming that doing this is way to complex for my level of Linux noobness. But very frustrated with some sound issues and willing to try some alternatives.

[oldcpu]

Did you work your way through the suggestions I provided in this thread of yours: Need help with flash sound ?

I've been using openSUSE for years, starting back in 2001 when it was known as SuSE. My experience is updating one's KDE is a sure way to run into problems with flash and other multimedia. Sure, most of the time one can 'get away' with such an update, but when one is bitten by a bug in an update to KDE (where its not an officially packaged KDE version distributed with openSUSE), then the solution is not often easy. Also, updating KDE (from the official distributed version) is rarely the way to fix a multimedia problem (such as flash).

[adsum01nl]

Thanks for sharing your perspective and experience with this. But in any case it would be good to see some solid alternatives to Flash supported in the distro going forward. But I am sure this is much easier said than done...