YAST disappeared ?

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Hi all,

I use openSUSE 11.1 since quite a bit and I frequently use YAST (not as root of course).
However, since the problems I have to deal with while trying to install WiFi internet access I meet the following problem.

I call YAST, get the small authentication screen, I give the right password, which seems to be recognized as such, but I never see YAST appearing. So I can’t manage neither my hardware, nor my software.

Anyone a clue ?

Thank you very much,

W

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wba wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I use openSUSE 11.1 since quite a bit and I frequently use YAST (not as
> root of course).
> However, since the problems I have to deal with while trying to install
> WiFi internet access I meet the following problem.
>
> I call YAST, get the small authentication screen, I give the right
> password, which seems to be recognized as such, but I never see YAST
> appearing. So I can’t manage neither my hardware, nor my software.
>
> Anyone a clue ?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> W
>
>
what happens if you open a terminal/console/konsole (whatever you
call it) and type/enter:


su -        <don't forget the dash, give root pass when asked, then:
/sbin/yast2

the familiar YaST2 Control Center window should open up…and, the
terminal should STAY open and may or may not initially show an
error…leave that terminal open while you do whatever
hardware/software management you wanted to do, then close the YaST2
Control Center window as you would normally do (on mine i click an x
in the title bar) and then, look again at the terminal and see if
there are any messages there…if so, copy paste them to here…thanks…

then, close the still open, root powered terminal…

–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
When it comes to chocolate, resistance is futile.

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Thank you, but what happens then ?

I do not get the normal GUI-screen, but the type of blue screen where you have to navigate by means of the TAB-key, as in the good old DOS days, with e.g. Norton utilities.

I’d like to have my GUI-screen back, though. It’s muchier easier navigating.

W

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My experience may apply to you as well. When I first installed installed 11.3 I was perplexed by a very weird problem, when I logged as non-root and tried to do anything that required root privileges, ie. su, sudo, YAST, etc the root password wouldn’t work. I would then logout and log back in as root (using the same password!), then reset the root password from the command line (again, the same password!), log back out and back in as the non-root User.

Everything that required root privileges then worked for that session.

This happened repeatedly but only intermittently or the first 4 days, then all of a sudden seemed to disappear and I haven’t seen the problem since.

Tony

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On 2010-09-26 17:06, wba wrote:
>
> Thank you, but what happens then ?
>
> I do not get the normal GUI-screen, but the type of blue screen where
> you have to navigate by means of the TAB-key, as in the good old DOS
> days, with e.g. Norton utilities.

“yast” is text mode, and “yast2” is graphical.

However, if you broke something big in yast, perhaps you are getting the text mode yast as a last
resource thing.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

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wba wrote:
> Thank you, but what happens then ?
>
> I do not get the normal GUI-screen,

did you type “yast” or “yast2” as i wrote?

> but the type of blue screen where
> you have to navigate by means of the TAB-key, as in the good old DOS
> days, with e.g. Norton utilities.

follow instructions! i’m not asking you to change the way you work or
go back to using “good old DOS days”, instead i’m trying to learn if
yast2 throws any errors into the terminal…

if we can see some errors it might be possible to fix your
problem…maybe, otherwise . . .

–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
When it comes to chocolate, resistance is futile.

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Are you sure you did what DenverD adviced: yast2? (the bold in the 2 is mine).

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Hello sir,

No offence intended. Please do accept my apologies.
It was the only way I could compare it to something I knew from the past.
In the meantime, I can’t get the GUI YAST as root neither, so it somehow disappeared …
Weird, very weird …

I’ll verify if I typed YAST or YAST2.

I have to switch continuously between Windows and openSUSE because in the latter I can’t establish a WiFi internet connection.

I’ll come back to you in a jiffy.

W

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rotfl! rotfl! No need to apoligize, only to be very precise when it is about computers.

And thus, when you type YAST and/or YAST2, that is again wrong. We did not use capitals and so should you do too.

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I typed sudo /sbin/yast2

I never use capitals linux (only if mandatory).

So, I again typed /sbin/yast2 and arrived in text mode.

Wim

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Please Wim,
You were asked to SHOW us what you see. This is done with copy/paste and putting that in your post. Not by telling vaguely “and arrived in text mode”.

You did type capitals in your post #8 above, how can we deduct from that that you know how to do it in the terminal?

And again you did not what DenverD asked. I repeat:

su - <don’t forget the dash, give root pass when asked, then:
/sbin/yast2

Maybe it does not matter much, but it is very difficult for us to follow what you are doing when you do other things then we suggest and then do not show us what happened. We can not look over your shoulder and our glass balls are all suffering from a virus infection.

We zijn nu enekele uren en nog geen stap verder :frowning:

Groetjes,

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Sorry Henk.
Since a few days, I have no more WiFi connection in Linux, so I switch continuously between openSuse en Windows.

I NEVER use capitals in windows, when I wrote YAST it was to “emphasize” the word, to make it stand out from the rest of the text.
I save what I see in the forum in a text-file (Windows), then reboot in Linux and read that file with gedit. I do not know how to copy & paste from a text file in Gnome to a terminal window. CTRL-C and CTRL-V do not work.

I’ll retry what DenverD asked and reply in a few minutes.

Wim

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Goede avond Henk,

This is the result of a quick return to openSUSE :

su - /sbin/yast2 gives : [blank between su and dash]
su: user /sbin/yast2 does not exist

su- /sbin/yast2 gives : [no blank between su and dash]
bash: su-: command not found

At no moment I am asked for the root password.

That was the reason why I ended up typing *sudo *etc.

Wim

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DenverD had two lines. I will show you how it works at mine:

henk@boven:~> su -
Wachtwoord:
boven:~ # yast2
boven:~ #

First you type the* su -* (and hit the Return key), then it asks for the root password, then you type yast2 (and the return key). In my case this results in the YaST window and after I finished that I got my las prompt back. Apperently you get something differeent and we want to see it.

And about copy and paste.

  1. you select the text by using the left mouse button (down, move, let go), the saying is that “now you have that text under the mouse” (and it is also in Klipper on KDE);
  2. then you click with the left mouse button on the place where you want to copy (to get focus);
  3. on the same place you click the middle mouse button.
    No keyboard needed, I guess that Ctrl-whatever is some silly Windows invention, but the above sequence did allready exist before Windows.
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That’s correct when you execute from a terminal you get the blue screen looking Yast, but you can accomplish your tasks.

Have you looked around your Workspaces to see if the YaST2 GUI has been minimized?
I’ve lost a screen or 2 when I maximize larger than the workspace and it seems to disappear.
I’ve recovered them by using combinations of Alt-Tab to see if (your case) YaST2 is running, then I try to resize and/or move YaST2.
Eventually, its recovered. I suppose there’s an easier way, maybe changing the start location in KDE/Gnome configuration settings for YaST2.

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On 2010-09-26 23:06, tararpharazon wrote:
>
> That’s correct when you execute from a terminal you get the blue screen
> looking Yast, but you can accomplish your tasks.

No, it is not correct.

You get the “blue text thing” if you type “yast”, and the GUI if you type “yast2”.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

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Hello Henk,

Thanks for your answer with the very well explained procedure.
I’ll do that tonight (after work).

  1. my working environment, alas, is Gnome, and I can’t copy in terminal mode with the mouse (or maybe I should do exactly as you say)
  2. I have no middle button on the mouse (if I’ll have to, I’ll buy a three button mouse)
  3. CTRL-V : I’ve known this from my CP/M time (1980-ish) , and I think it already existed in pico

Anyway, I’ll keep you informed.

W

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Thanks for your answer.

  1. Q : YAST2 GUI minimized ? A: I start from booting in openSUSE, so at that moment I have nothing minimized yet. How can I find my minimized (possibly) YAST2 ?
  2. I’ll give the ALT-TAB combination a try, I had not thought of that.

W

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It’s true on my OS 1.1.

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wba wrote:
> Thanks for your answer.
> 1. Q : YAST2 GUI minimized ? A: I start from booting in openSUSE, so at
> that moment I have nothing minimized yet. How can I find my minimized
> (possibly) YAST2 ?
> 2. I’ll give the ALT-TAB combination a try, I had not thought of that.

i need to, respectfully, retire from this thread…i just don’t have
the patience needed to keep up, and cool, at the same time.

–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
When it comes to chocolate, resistance is futile.