i’m trying to find a thread i participated in within the last ten days
or so, but don’t remember much about where it was or what i
wrote…so, i go to my profile
<http://forums.opensuse.org/members/denverd.html> and click on “Find
all posts” (left side) and see that there are none shown after 16
July, i wonder why?
i can guess that part of the ongoing problems of the latest to/from
nntp-web forum software is not getting nntp posts into a place where
they can be found correctly by the profile page’s “Find all posts”…
and, i wonder if that is somehow related to the deathly pause users
get if trying to use that search while not signed in (by the way, i
don’t see any of my post since 16 July, when searching while signed in)
i hope that all gets worked out along with the twice an hour
sweep…which really slows down answers flowing to users…
sometimes progress that is measured by how it looks turns out to be no
progress at all…and, i think this is one such case…as far as i can
see we (the Community) gained nothing worthwhile in this latest forum
software upgrade, but we lost a lot…on the other hand it kinda
matches the ‘upgrade’ to the wiki…
kgroneman wrote:
>> It does for me. I see todays posts and so on going backwards.
>
> Me too.
ok, then someone please help me understand why you can, but i can’t
find any posts after 16 July (after clicking the “Find all posts”
button on my profile page
<http://forums.opensuse.org/members/denverd.html>)…
see this CET time stamped image, just taken (showing a 16 July message
as the latest):
are you saying the openSUSE server is providing the newer post to you
and all, but my firefox is not rendering it…or, my router is not
delivering it…or, my ISP is filtering it out…or, what could be
the possible hitch?
rule out a firefox problem: i get the same 16 July message as the
newest in Opera also…
> are you saying the openSUSE server is providing the newer post to you
> and all, but my firefox is not rendering it…or, my router is not
> delivering it…or, my ISP is filtering it out…or, what could be
> the possible hitch?
Try via an anonymous proxy. Your IP will come from a different IP, or even different country.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))
On 2010-07-28 07:36, Per Jessen wrote:
> Jonathan R wrote:
>
>>
>> Try this. I see 5 pages or more.
>> http://forums.opensuse.org/search.php?searchid=47278
>>
>
> I tried that - "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. "
Same here.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:05:44 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> kgroneman wrote:
>>> It does for me. I see todays posts and so on going backwards.
>>
>> Me too.
>
> ok, then someone please help me understand why you can, but i can’t find
> any posts after 16 July (after clicking the “Find all posts” button on
> my profile page
> <http://forums.opensuse.org/members/denverd.html>)…
>
> see this CET time stamped image, just taken (showing a 16 July message
> as the latest):
>
> http://www.imagebam.com/image/7d691b90466327
>
> are you saying the openSUSE server is providing the newer post to you
> and all, but my firefox is not rendering it…or, my router is not
> delivering it…or, my ISP is filtering it out…or, what could be the
> possible hitch?
>
> rule out a firefox problem: i get the same 16 July message as the newest
> in Opera also…
One thing I noticed while looking into this is that if you fill out the
advanced search form, the results are sorted by relevance rather than by
date by default.
You might try changing that and see if you get a different result.
That said, apparently there are a number of people using vBulletin 4 who
have reported problems with search to the developers - and those known
issues are being looked into. So again we’d have to ask for patience
while those who wrote the code investigate and fix the known and reported
issues.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:37:28 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2010-07-28 07:36, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Jonathan R wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Try this. I see 5 pages or more.
>>> http://forums.opensuse.org/search.php?searchid=47278
>>>
>>>
>> I tried that - "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. "
>
> Same here.
It seems that search IDs aren’t stored by the system, so a search result
link won’t actually work if you follow one someone else has provided (and
even the original person may not be able to).
Jim Henderson wrote:
> One thing I noticed while looking into this is that if you fill out the
> advanced search form, the results are sorted by relevance rather than by
> date by default.
no, there is no way to sort by relevance…
i am NOT searching on the advanced search page…
it may be that everyone who can’t duplicate this bug is doing the same
thing, not reading my post closely enough (or i’m not being clear
enough)…
left side, under where my photo could be, click on “Find all posts”
(if you do that not signed in you get to wait 50!+ seconds…signed
in, about 4 seconds)
when the search results are posted, the most recent posting shown
is 16 July…
then, repeat 1 and 2, but click on “Find all started threads” (not
signed in search returned in about 4 seconds and shows three threads
started since the above, supposedly newest, 16 July posting…
well, i just happened to think, maybe it is one of those strange
things that change with different forum-skins…i don’t know which
‘skin’ i have selected, and have forgotten how to find it…so, if you
see posts listed after 16 July, and know how to switch skins, you
might try that and narrow in on the bug…
DenverD wrote:
> might try that and narrow in on the bug…
speaking of bugs, i hadn’t consider the possibility of logging a bug
with bugzilla because it is (i think) so obviously not an openSUSE
code problem…hmmmm, will our bugzilla forward a forum software bug
report upstream??
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:10:08 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> i am NOT searching on the advanced search page…
I am suggesting that perhaps you try that way and see if the results are
different. As I said, there are some issues that vBulletin is looking
into as a lot of sites running v4 are experiencing search problems.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:12:15 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> DenverD wrote:
>> might try that and narrow in on the bug…
>
> speaking of bugs, i hadn’t consider the possibility of logging a bug
> with bugzilla because it is (i think) so obviously not an openSUSE code
> problem…hmmmm, will our bugzilla forward a forum software bug report
> upstream??
Nope, you’ve reported the issue the proper way, and it’s been escalated
by a number of vBulletin customers to vBulletin. So now we wait for them
to address it.
> 2. go to my profile page here,
> http://forums.opensuse.org/members/denverd.html
>
> 3. left side, under where my photo could be, click on “Find all posts”
> (if you do that not signed in you get to wait 50!+ seconds…signed
> in, about 4 seconds)
Not signed, instant response: “Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.”
> then, repeat 1 and 2, but click on “Find all started threads” (not
> signed in search returned in about 4 seconds and shows three threads
> started since the above, supposedly newest, 16 July posting…
Not signed, instant response, two pages with total of 21 posts. First one dated 23-may-2010, last
04-Jul-2008.
> well, i just happened to think, maybe it is one of those strange
> things that change with different forum-skins…i don’t know which
> ‘skin’ i have selected, and have forgotten how to find it…so, if you
> see posts listed after 16 July, and know how to switch skins, you
> might try that and narrow in on the bug…
I’m not logged in, I have no profile, thus I suppose I get the default skin, whatever that is.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:33 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2010-07-28 20:10, DenverD wrote:
>
>> 2. go to my profile page here,
>> http://forums.opensuse.org/members/denverd.html
>>
>> 3. left side, under where my photo could be, click on “Find all posts”
>> (if you do that not signed in you get to wait 50!+ seconds…signed in,
>> about 4 seconds)
>
> Not signed, instant response: “Sorry - no matches. Please try some
> different terms.”
The search index is being rebuilt right now, so results are likely to be
spotty. We’re doing that to try to alleviate the issue.
On 2010-07-29 00:27, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:33 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2010-07-28 20:10, DenverD wrote:
>>
>>> 2. go to my profile page here,
>>> http://forums.opensuse.org/members/denverd.html
>>>
>>> 3. left side, under where my photo could be, click on “Find all posts”
>>> (if you do that not signed in you get to wait 50!+ seconds…signed in,
>>> about 4 seconds)
>>
>> Not signed, instant response: “Sorry - no matches. Please try some
>> different terms.”
>
> The search index is being rebuilt right now, so results are likely to be
> spotty. We’re doing that to try to alleviate the issue.
Yes, I saw that later. Rebuild was announced as finished a moment ago.
Ok. Now I find 91 posts, from today back to (waiting…) 23-jul-2010. And it is very slow. Going
from page 2 to 5 takes a minute or more. Ah, now it says that there are 157 posts, with 7 pages.
Going to #7 now… (does nothing, click again on “7”)… (waiting) … to 17-Jul-2010, and now
there are 220 posts and 10 pages. I stop here.
Find all started threads is fast, 3 pages, back to “04-Jul-2008”. 46 results.
Fortunately, I didn’t get the “captcha” thing, because last time I tried it here I couldn’t read it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))
kgroneman wrote:
> DenverD: Redo that “show all posts” search and let me know if it looks
> better.
yep, that fixed it so posts more recent than 16 July are shown…thanks
i wonder what happened on Friday 16 July to break it–i muse as i
recall that for three Friday’s in a row the nntp <to/from> http
interface took a holiday for some hours until it was kicked to life
(by magic, i was told that last time it happened)…
but, the 50+ second pause introduced in the last vBulletin ‘upgrade’
remains (as Carlos ran into)…
