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    Default Re: KDE/KDE4/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory repo problemfor 11.2

    caf4926 is a he - not a she or even a he-she.
    ;-)

    Go to software management and search for: k3b
    Now go to the versions tab and tell me how many options you see


    The problem with too many repos is you have so many sources for the same package. Enough said for now.
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    Default Re: KDE/KDE4/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory repo problemfor 11.2

    caf4926 is a he - not a she or even a he-she.
    ;-)
    OK
    Go to software management and search for: k3b
    Now go to the versions tab and tell me how many options you see
    8 options, 2 different architectures per one repo. And I'm using the latest version from /KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_11.2

    The problem with too many repos is you have so many sources for the same package. Enough said for now.
    For zypper it's not a problem, so for me it's not too. The only problem i have with many repos is Amarok 'unstable' version in /KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory but I solved it with 'zypper al -r' on that repo.

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    Default Re: KDE/KDE4/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory repo problemfor 11.2

    As you wish...
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    Default Re: KDE/KDE4/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory repo problemfor 11.2

    rafalskonecki wrote:
    > For zypper it's not a problem, so for me it's not too. The only problem
    > i have with many repos is Amarok 'unstable' version in
    > /KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory but I solved it
    > with 'zypper al -r' on that repo.


    when you have more than the basic four repos *enabled* and zypper dup
    you pull in _conflicting_ packages from all the different sources and
    are sure to make your system unstable..

    yes, you can manually go in and wicker each little problem, *if* you
    can find the problems introduced--and, there will be *many* problems
    introduced...it is imho _much_ better (if you want a usable system) to
    follow oldcpu's advice and manage your system as it was designed to be
    managed, with the four basic repos..

    additionally, "Factory" is *not* a good place to update from unless
    you want the very latest (like last night), mostly UNTESTED (or poorly
    tested, at best) unstable, and undependable code available..

    yes, there are many folks here running from Factory, *but* they fall
    into two categories:

    1. those who are purposefully testing the new code and doing so in a
    sandbox/testing system which contains *zero* important data or
    production responsibilities---because they know that the entire system
    _may_ die and take ALL their music, photos, movies, letters to Aunt
    Tillie and etc with it, at _any_ random second!

    2. those who have no clue and update from Factory their only machine
    (containing everything important to them) with no backup whatsoever..

    which group are you in?

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    when you have more than the basic four repos *enabled* and zypper dup
    you pull in _conflicting_ packages from all the different sources and
    are sure to make your system unstable..
    It's stable enough for me.
    yes, you can manually go in and wicker each little problem, *if* you
    can find the problems introduced--and, there will be *many* problems
    introduced...it is imho _much_ better (if you want a usable system) to
    follow oldcpu's advice and manage your system as it was designed to be
    managed, with the four basic repos..
    I will agree if main repos include stable version of Privoxy(in OSS is beta!!!), some version of mercurial and many other packages I can't find there From few hours the list also include bespin theme as i suppose. Don't remember whether bespin was in OSS but in "KDE main 3 repos" was and today it gone.
    additionally, "Factory" is *not* a good place to update from unless
    you want the very latest (like last night), mostly UNTESTED (or poorly
    tested, at best) unstable, and undependable code available..
    I know what means RC2 version and what means "svn..." in package name. KDE is somehow unstable even in 'stable' 4.3 version so if i have to choose between unstable and unstable with new features i prefer the second.
    yes, there are many folks here running from Factory, *but* they fall
    into two categories:

    1. those who are purposefully testing the new code and doing so in a
    sandbox/testing system which contains *zero* important data or
    production responsibilities---because they know that the entire system
    _may_ die and take ALL their music, photos, movies, letters to Aunt
    Tillie and etc with it, at _any_ random second!

    2. those who have no clue and update from Factory their only machine
    (containing everything important to them) with no backup whatsoever..

    which group are you in?
    None of them. I have never lost data and I do periodical backups. Photos and music are on 'ro' partitions.
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    Default Re: KDE/KDE4/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory repo problemfor 11.2

    rafalskonecki wrote:
    >> which group are you in?
    >>

    > None of them. I have never lost data and I do periodical backups.
    > Photos and music are on 'ro' partitions.


    as caf4926 said: as you wish..

    by using them all you acknowledge that you know how to solve your own
    problems...so, when you run into problems while using all of those
    repos it is not fair to come here and use our time trying to help a
    helpless/hopeless situation...which is "stable enough for you"..

    see your delimma now?

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    Default Re: KDE/KDE4/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory repo problemfor 11.2

    by using them all you acknowledge that you know how to solve your own
    problems...so, when you run into problems while using all of those
    repos it is not fair to come here and use our time trying to help a
    helpless/hopeless situation...which is "stable enough for you"..

    see your delimma now?
    DD. You have a astute ability of 'Hitting the nail on the Head'!
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    as caf4926 said: as you wish..

    by using them all you acknowledge that you know how to solve your own
    problems...so, when you run into problems while using all of those
    repos it is not fair to come here and use our time trying to help a
    helpless/hopeless situation...which is "stable enough for you"..

    see your delimma now?
    I don't have enough strengh to explain You what is the main problem and why i started this thread.
    I'm only wasting my time here....
    After all, good luck...

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    caf4926 wrote:
    > DD. You have a astute ability of 'Hitting the nail on the Head'!


    unfortunately, some here characterize my ability as over the top!

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    [quote] Sometimes, after update, it looks like in repo are old packages but version numbers are higher than previous. It looks like there are two 'packagers' and one of them makes packages from older builds.

    I think what you have is an update cluster *#%k. Your package versions and updates are directly related to the installed version, the repos you have active, and whatever instructions you have administered over time. Your seeing a direct result of updating from the collection of repos you listed. From what I see and with my limited but profound experience at borking my system through package mis-management. I am humbled in the face of true brevity. I added kde4 stable and kde4 updates stable repos and thought I was testing my metal and my understanding of yast, zypper (not dup ... shiver), and the package switcher concerning updates and package management. You should likely not be concerned with indications of older or newer versions of your software or your active, inactive, or deleted repositories. Your system is apparently stable and your update procedure is working for you. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain....
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