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    Default A Question about Package version

    I've always had a doubt about what means the last numbers after the "-".

    For example, what could have possibly changed between Mesa package version:

    7.8.2-22.1 and 7.8.2-23.1 ????

    Thats with every package, including KDE, etc etc.

    If its the same package, what could change from 2 different release numbers?

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    Default Re: A Question about Package version

    assas1n wrote:
    > If its the same package, what could change from 2 different release
    > numbers?


    it is NOT the same package

    the package number is *all* of the numbers..

    the difference between the package numbered 7.8.2-22.1 and the package
    numbered 7.8.2-23.1 could be anything from a very minor improvement in
    documentation up to a completely new way of doing whatever it does..

    just because both have 7.8.2-2_.1 in common has nothing to do with the
    fact that one has a "2" and the other a "3"....and, 2 and 3 are always
    different..

    and, the one with the larger number is always the newer of the two..

    make sense?

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    Default Re: A Question about Package version

    Quote Originally Posted by assas1n
    I've always had a doubt about what means the last numbers after the
    "-".

    For example, what could have possibly changed between Mesa package
    version:

    7.8.2-22.1 and 7.8.2-23.1 ????

    Thats with every package, including KDE, etc etc.

    If its the same package, what could change from 2 different release
    numbers?

    Hi
    You need to check the change log to see what changed. Could have been
    an upstream change to trigger a rebuild of the package, an actual change
    etc. Or someone could have triggered a rebuild of all packages.

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    Default Re: A Question about Package version

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis
    Quote Originally Posted by assas1n
    I've always had a doubt about what means the last numbers after the
    "-".

    For example, what could have possibly changed between Mesa package
    version:

    7.8.2-22.1 and 7.8.2-23.1 ????

    Thats with every package, including KDE, etc etc.

    If its the same package, what could change from 2 different release
    numbers?

    Hi
    You need to check the change log to see what changed. Could have been
    an upstream change to trigger a rebuild of the package, an actual change
    etc. Or someone could have triggered a rebuild of all packages.
    Hi
    See it's because of bnc #620037
    https://build.opensuse.org/package/v...ect=X11%3AXOrg

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    Default Re: A Question about Package version

    Thats great, thanks for the claryfications !!!

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    Just a minor doubt still.

    I didnt quite understand that a change in the numbers after the "-" could bring fixes. Isnt it supposed to be the numbers before the "-" that bring fixes? Ex: from KDE 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 ???

    I mean, what could packagers do to fix something in the initial release of its creator?

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    Default Re: A Question about Package version

    Quote Originally Posted by assas1n
    Just a minor doubt still.

    I didnt quite understand that a change in the numbers after the "-"
    could bring fixes. Isnt it supposed to be the numbers before the "-"
    that bring fixes? Ex: from KDE 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 ???

    I mean, what could packagers do to fix something in the initial release
    of its creator?

    Hi
    The numbers before the dash is the upstream source version. No, the
    upstream source remains unchanged, then normally you then patch or
    customize for openSUSE specific requirements, some patches are also
    pushed back upstream to be incorporated by the original developer(s)
    into the next release. The numbers after the dash are the domain of the
    packager.

    You keep the source pure as downloaded for obvious reasons, security. I
    can download a source and check the md5sum (sha1 etc) from the
    developers site. I can also download the src rpm unpack and verify the
    source is the same, if they aren't then there is an issue....

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    Default Re: A Question about Package version

    Oh, so that means for example, take the Amarok music player package, then if the numbers after the dash get updated, it could be so that it works with a specific version of ALSA ? This is just a stupid example, i know

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    Quote Originally Posted by assas1n
    Oh, so that means for example, take the Amarok music player package,
    then if the numbers after the dash get updated, it could be so that it
    works with a specific version of ALSA ? This is just a stupid example, i
    know

    Hi
    Not at all, you are correct or to disable some of the default
    features to make it an openSUSE package that may be able to use for
    example ffmpeg, add init scripts, config files etc.

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    Default Re: A Question about Package version

    Great, appriciated !!

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