freezing on start up

Hi, In new to linux as you can probably tell but i was hoping for some help. A little while ago i bought a magazine with the openSUSE 11.1 distro on it but couldn’t install it so i gave up. I am attempting to have another go. The problem is that the os will work fine when booted from CD in fail safe mode and can be installed from there but when out of fail safe mode the system begins to boot but freezes and will do nothing more. I believe it to a be a graphics problem as this is my laptop and has an awful chip set, but i may very well be wrong.

Any help is much apprieciated but please keep it simple as i get easily confused, thank you.
Alex

first, you have to realize we can’t see your machine and you need to
tell us about:

-laptop brand/model number
-RAM
-free/usuable hard drive space
-cpu maker/speed
-graphics system brand/model

software
-brand/version of other OS on machine, if any
-do you want to dual boot
-is the magazine 11.1 the only one you have? is it a KDE or Gnome?

[then, any who sees the needed info can take Alex the next step, while
i snooze—i suspect a low RAM condition and/or ATI]

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Did you laptop come with pre-installed windows or propriety software.

e systems 1201
1gb or there abouts
120gb
intel pentium dual core 1.73 ghz processor
sis mirage M672mx

It orginally came with vista which i removed at put XP on then removed that when first installing openSUSE
no
KDE

It came with vista but that was pre-installed

cheers for the quick replies :slight_smile:
Alex

It is probably the recovery partition that still messes up your suse install. Do you have Acronis like system or parted magic. Wipe it clean and do a fresh install.

When booting, hit Esc as soon as you see the bootsplash (so not the bootmenu, but the splashscreen afterwards. It should show you exactly where it stops/freezes. Please post the last couple of lines (make a photo of it, or type the messages). My guess is, it’s the videocard.

This has never been an issue. openSUSE doesn’t care what’s on other partitions.

ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no)
thermal LNXTHERM: 01: registered as themal_zone 0
ACPI: Thermal Zone [TZ01] (41 c)

Those are the last three lines before it crashes.
Alex

alexs17 wrote:
> ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no)
> thermal LNXTHERM: 01: registered as themal_zone 0
> ACPI: Thermal Zone [TZ01] (41 c)
>
> Those are the last three lines before it crashes.

at the first green screen during boot, where it lets you decide to
boot normal or failsafe:

-press the down arrow
-type acpi=off
-press Enter
-boot should commence, press Esc and watch
-report back with outcome and last lines seen this time


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tried that and only got a completely black screen didn’t matter whether i pressed escape or not

try again, this time by typing in


vga=normal


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Hi
Another one to try is;


edd=off


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On 2010-07-06 19:16 GMT alexs17 wrote:

>
> Hi, In new to linux as you can probably tell but i was hoping for some
> help. A little while ago i bought a magazine with the openSUSE 11.1
> distro on it but couldn’t install it so i gave up. I am attempting to
> have another go. The problem is that the os will work fine when booted
> from CD in fail safe mode and can be installed from there but when out
> of fail safe mode the system begins to boot but freezes and will do
> nothing more. I believe it to a be a graphics problem as this is my
> laptop and has an awful chip set, but i may very well be wrong.
>

When booting starts press the ESC key so that you get a text screen
with messages flashing by, till it freezes. Then copy here what were
the last messages.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Minas Tirith))

right vga=normal produced :
ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no)

edd=off produced:
acpi device:0f: registered a cooling_device2
Input: Video Bus as /device/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/device/PNP0A03:00/device:0c/device: 0d/Input/Input8

tried acpi=off vga=normal edd=off altogether but to no avail hmph
Alex

alexs17 wrote:
> tried acpi=off vga=normal edd=off altogether but to no avail hmph

-boot from the CD

-open terminal, become by typing and entering


su -

-when asked for the password just hit enter (that should/might work)

-then type and enter the following


lspci -v

-copy/paste the output to here…

then hope someone who knows what they are doing comes by and tells us
what part of your system needs what work around to function…

or, look at the kernel parameters used in the normal boot, and the
fail safe boot…and, add the normal ones, one at a time until it no
longer boots then back off…

or, just accept that failsafe is the best you can do…

otherwise: you can go to our Hardware Compatibility List
<http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/> and list your laptop’s hardware as
hopelessly incompatible with openSUSE Linux

and, for future reference: the best way to make sure you buy hardware
suitable for Linux is to buy a machine with Linux
pre-installed…those are available from big names like DELL, Asus,
HP, Lenovo and well as specialist like:
http://www.linuxcertified.com/
http://www.system76.com/
http://www.emperorlinux.com/
http://www.shuttle.eu/products/complete-systems/

and i guess others (if you see them, let me know please)


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thanks for all the help i certainly would never buy another system like this one the graphics chip has been so poor it is unbelievable, i may just have to accept defeat and reinstall windows which i really dont want to do. The thing is i have had Ubuntu working before but now the disk wont load. I shall try the various parameters from fail safe if see if they will work.

I have heard before that the SIS system dont favour linux which is not surprising as them dont seem to favour anything. Thanks again for all the help guys i wish i could say that it worked.
Alex

Made for windows hardware is always questionable.