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    Default How to install a progam? :)

    Hi,
    well I want to get the latest version of java on my opensuse. (java is just an example, the rest of programs are similar)
    Default I had JRE 1.6.0-u17 and I want to have 1.6.0-u20 both JRE and JDK.
    Choices:
    1. I added some yast repositories and installed JRE, JDK and java browser plugin
    2. download from site the .bin file, chmod +x and ./runit!

    First, I tried the 2nd version but I had some problems:
    1 - this didn't affected the classpath so when I used java -version still u17 it was, not u20
    2 - the browser plugin wasn't updated
    3 - how cand I uninstall it (u20)?
    Latelty I come back to the 1st choice, it works, but I want to learn opensuse so... I have to find out the answer for the 2nd choice.
    Thank you

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    yes, one click install
    btw, do you use one click install or rpm -ivh blabla.rmp or run a .bin file?
    wich way is better?

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    ioask4it wrote:
    > yes, one click install
    > btw, do you use one click install or rpm -ivh blabla.rmp or run a .bin
    > file?
    > wich way is better?
    >
    >

    imo, the _best_ way is to use YaST > Community Repositories to enable
    four, and *only* four repos: oss, non-oss, update and packman..

    then, use YaST > Software Manager to search for the program/package
    you wish to install, and then do it..

    do it that way because all dependencies will be taken care of by YaST
    and the new program will automatically be added to your menu (unless
    it is a CLI program) and it will automatically be easy to uninstall..

    always try YaST and the four repos first....if that doesn't work then
    you are working OUTSIDE the safe openSUSE system...

    well, you may find it in one of the other repos and that is easy to do
    with the link caf gave you..

    that means you are kinda on your own to download rpms, tarballs or
    whatever....and track down and solve whatever dependencies pop
    up...and, expect problems and maybe no one here with experience down
    the same winding dark path you have taken..

    in that case i'd always opt for an rpm claiming to be packaged for
    "suse" and when downloaded i'd right click it, and select Actions >
    Install with YaST...next choice would be use the CLI rpm command..

    others will have other opinions, pick one...

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    Default Re: How to install a progam? :)

    well, I have those four repositories and now I want to get netbeans.
    On those repositories I found netbeans 6.5 (Build Time:
    Sun 01 Nov 2009 09:58:18 PM EET) but the last available version is 6.9, so I installed with ./netbeans-6.9-ml-javase-linux.sh
    So, this is a situation where yast cannot be used because those repositories don't have the latest version of programs and, sometimes, a binary version is recommended.
    Being a beginner I have troubles when not using yast

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    Default Re: How to install a progam? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD
    well, you may find it in one of the other repos and that is easy to do
    with the link caf gave you..

    that means you are kinda on your own to download rpms, tarballs or
    whatever....and track down and solve whatever dependencies pop
    up...and, expect problems and maybe no one here with experience down
    the same winding dark path you have taken..
    Just for clarification: it is a good advice to use oneclickers with caution (I recommend not to use them at all), but oneclickers a) by default add the repository from which the .rpm is fetched and b) lets YaST take care of dependencies too.

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    Default Re: How to install a progam? :)

    Quote Originally Posted by gropiuskalle View Post
    Just for clarification: it is a good advice to use oneclickers with caution (I recommend not to use them at all), but oneclickers a) by default add the repository from which the .rpm is fetched and b) lets YaST take care of dependencies too.
    Agreed.
    Not my choice at all those OneClicks

    To the OP: @ioask4it
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    yes, I intend to have java u20 and netbeans 6.9.
    And now I have those but netbeans was installed from a .bin file because I couldn't found any repository with the latest version.
    So my dilema was: if you get the same version of a program in a one-click or a binary/rpm file, what is recommended to install?
    And I found the solution: one-click because it's simple and resolves the dependencies.
    Thank you

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    ioask4it wrote:
    > yes, I intend to have java u20 and netbeans 6.9.
    > And now I have those but netbeans was installed from a .bin file
    > because I couldn't found any repository with the latest version.
    >
    >

    are there specific functions not available in u17 and 6.5 which you
    must have in order to do what you need to do ???

    i ask because you say you are "a beginner" and i _suppose_ that means
    a beginner to Linux but a old hand at either Windows or Mac....in
    which case i think you MIGHT be using experience gained in your former
    life where the software maker moved SLOWLY and when they did they VERY
    often made the new software *not* work with the old software (it is a
    way they ensure themselves a constant new stream of money flowing in)..

    therefore, Redmond and Mac folks have a built in, burning desire to
    always have the latest version installed, and THEN get to work hacking
    up (or using) some net beans (or whatever) stuff..

    TaDa! [that is the sound of the trumpets accompanying the light bulb
    about to come on over your cartoon head]:

    Congratulations, because you are wise and have taken on a new
    operating system, you do not have to do that anymore..

    sure, you can always have the lastest of every program on your
    computer...but, you are gonna be BUSY...in Linux there IS something
    new everyday.....actually more likely every hour....instead of all the
    programmers with access to the code base living in either California
    or Washington (state) they are all over the world, working around the
    clock....and, something new is likely to show up any hour of any day,
    somewhere..

    to always have the latest is a LOT of work...and, usually gives a lot
    more problems than it solves..

    my free advice is to read this: go to http://tinyurl.com/yhf65pv then
    scroll down to post #4, and read and follow the info following
    "IMPORTANT". especially, note the part about "Please note that adding
    other repositories can cause compatibility problems. You may add
    others when the time comes when you learn how to solve problems that
    may arise from having others."

    and, for now (since you haven't learned how to solve the problems
    which WILL arise by mixing the tried and tested software from the
    basic four openSUSE repos with that from outside RPMs, bin files or
    tarballs) then ACCEPT the software in the four, and stop trying to
    have the very latest...for now, today! tomorrow is a different things...

    i think you will soon find that you could actually install something
    that was first new two years ago and it be just fine (and even stable,
    usuable, dependable, predictable and secure---more so than what you
    used to use, when it was the latest..)

    see: 11.2 is only seven months old!! do not loose sight of that..

    obviously, you may actually require u17 and 6.5 and ymmv.

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    Default Re: How to install a progam? :)

    well, you are not always right because:
    - I guess you still have activated updater applet to update your o.s.
    - if you use an antivirus (well, abstratly speaking because the linux user don't have any) you keep the antivirus set to update himself every 3 hours
    - any linux program looks more uglyer than the windows (7) and with less options so I want to keep my software updated with the latest version
    - microsoft word always will look bettern then openoffice's writer so ofc I want to update that software
    - the latest version of java is not BETA so it is a working version, no problems to update
    - and btw, the drivers here sucks (I have no printer, webcam, 5.1 sound & rest) so ofc I want to update maybe maybe a newer kernel/driver appears

    I made highschool, faculty and master on computers, I am a programer of microcontrollers and now I've changed the cv a little with administering oracle database and novel open enterprise server 2 (3088 course) BUT I am new to linux

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