Xorg often crashes whithout any apparent reason. The system shows a strange behavior afterwards.
I had those crashes when using open office, gimp or lyx and only while one of their windows had the focus.
In open office the will happen without me doing anything.
In gimp it only happened while using the foreground selection, and lyx I haven’t used enough to say anything about it.
After the crash the screen freezes; I can only move the cursor, but not as fluently as usual.
I can still login over the network (ssh) and it looks like I can do anything except killing Xorg or rebooting, so probably more of the system has crashed than just Xorg. The system did not crash when using these applications within Xephyr or Xnest, however, so it seem to have to do with Xorg.
Magic sysrq keys still seem to work, though the screen content does not change so I only saw the effect of alt-sysrq-b (reboot).
Does anyone have any idea what this strange behavior might come from/how it could be fixed?
KDE 4.3.5-0.1.1 (the version numbers I posted are those of the packages from the suse repos)
?? of course I have drivers ??
xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd (Graphics card:ATI-Radeon-X800-XT)
Which other drivers could be relevant?
Desktop effects? Do you mean the effects in compiz? If you do, no, I’m using kwin.
/etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started.
/usr/bin/manpath: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD
INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method).
Trying to start a default input method for the locale de_DE.UTF-8 ...
There is no default input method for the current locale.
Dummy input method "none" (do not use any fancy input method by default)
migrating "/home/tobias/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/Bilder.desktop" -> "/home/tobias/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/Bilder.desktop"
migrating "/home/tobias/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/asdf.desktop" -> "/home/tobias/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/asdf.desktop"
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so
kbuildsycoca4 running...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kconf_update.so
Invalid D-BUS member name 'idle-hint' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'is-local' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'x11-display-device' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'x11-display' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'display-device' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'remote-host-name' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'session-type' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'unix-user' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kcminit_startup.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_ksmserver.so
<unknown program name>(3862)/ KStartupInfo::createNewStartupId: creating: "Dell;1272722057;390487;3862_TIME0" : "unnamed app"
kephald starting up
XRANDR error base: 164
RRInput mask is set!!
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 78 1600 x 1200
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 79 1920 x 1440
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 80 1792 x 1344
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 81 1600 x 1200
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 82 1280 x 1024
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 83 1280 x 1024
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 84 1280 x 1024
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 85 1152 x 864
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 86 1024 x 768
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 87 1024 x 768
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 88 1024 x 768
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 89 1024 x 768
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 90 832 x 624
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 91 800 x 600
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 92 800 x 600
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 93 800 x 600
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 94 800 x 600
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 95 640 x 480
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 96 640 x 480
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 97 640 x 480
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 98 640 x 480
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode: 99 720 x 400
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding crtc: 74
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding crtc: 75
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding output: 76
Setting CRTC 74 on output "VGA-0" (previous 0 )
CRTC outputs: (76)
Output name: "VGA-0"
Output refresh rate: 85
Output rect: QRect(0,0 1600x1200)
Output rotation: 1
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding output: 77
Setting CRTC 0 on output "DVI-0" (previous 0 )
XRandROutputs::init
got a valid edid block...
vendor code: "PHL"
product id: 8
serial number: 172533
added output 76
added output 77
output: "DVI-0" QRect(0,0 0x0) 0 false false
output: "VGA-0" QRect(0,0 1600x1200) 0 false false
load xml
connected: 1
looking for current "VGA-0"
known "*" has score: 0.125
screen: 0 QRect(0,0 1600x1200)
looking for a matching configuration...
connected: 1
looking for current "VGA-0"
known "*" has score: 0.125
found outputs, known: false
connected: 1
looking for current "VGA-0"
known "*" has score: 0.125
activate external configuration!!
registered the service: true
screens registered on the bus: true
outputs registered on the bus: true
configurations registered on the bus: true
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kglobalaccel.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotify4
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to QWidget "", which already has a layout
Object::connect: No such signal SystemTray::Manager::jobStateChanged(SystemTray::Job*)
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_file.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_file.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_file.so
Invalid D-BUS interface name 'org.kde.plasma-desktop.PlasmaApp' found while parsing introspection
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_trash.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kio_http_cache_cleaner.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kaccess.so
<unknown program name>(3951)/ kdemain: Xlib XKB extension major= 1 minor= 0
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kxkb.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmixctrl.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_nepomukserver.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_krunner.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_nepomukserver.so
Nepomuk server already running.
(process:3958): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_param_spec_flags: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_FLAGS (flags_type)' failed
(process:3958): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_class_install_property: assertion `G_IS_PARAM_SPEC (pspec)' failed
"/usr/bin/kdeinit4(3963)" Error in thread 3044501248 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
"/usr/bin/kdeinit4(3963)" Error in thread 3044501248 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_trash.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kerry
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotes
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/yakuake
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-kde
Object::connect: No such slot KerryApplication::showSearchDialog()
Object::connect: (sender name: 'show_search_dialog')
Object::connect: (receiver name: 'kerry')
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/polkit-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/gnome-do
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/hp-systray
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/ksmolt
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kupdateapplet
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klipper.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
<unknown program name>(3971)/: Communication problem with "kmix" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
<unknown program name>(3975)/: Communication problem with "yakuake" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
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<unknown program name>(4006)/: Communication problem with "kmix" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
<unknown program name>(4001)/: Communication problem with "kupdateapplet" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/firefox
*** nss-shared-helper: Shared database disabled (set NSS_USE_SHARED_DB to enable).
ALSA lib setup.c:555:(add_elem) Cannot obtain info for CTL elem (MIXER,'IEC958 Playback Default',0,0,0): Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[Error 15:55:06.613] [SystemService] Could not initialize dbus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such method 'GetOnBattery' in interface 'org.freedesktop.PowerManagement' at object path '/org/freedesktop/PowerManagement' (signature '')
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so
<unknown program name>(3862)/ KStartupInfo::createNewStartupId: creating: "Dell;1272722116;965436;3862_TIME0" : "unnamed app"
kbuildsycoca4 running...
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 in NPP_GetValue()
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 in NPP_GetValue()
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 in NPP_GetValue()
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 in NPP_GetValue()
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kio_http_cache_cleaner.so
QClipboard::setData: Cannot set X11 selection owner for PRIMARY
klauncher: Exiting on signal 15
KCrash: Application 'ksmserver' crashing...
Warning: connect() failed: : Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt
KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd (Graphics card:ATI-Radeon-X800-XT)
Which other drivers could be relevant?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I meant graphics-card driver.:shame:
Kwin has it’s own desktop effects.
To check if you have them enabled go to System Settings->Desktop->Desktop Effects.
And could you post the content of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
And the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
I can’t post my Xorg.0.log. It has too many characters.
I’ve tried the driver from the ati website, which did not install (there was some strange problem with unpacking the archive if I remember correctly) and that from the ATI repository for SUSE 11.2. It did install, but there was some problem, too, I think though I don’t remember exactly what it was.
I guess some info about the hardware is needed. Also run the memory check from the install media overnight. Also would not hurt to run the media check to be sure that what you installed was not corrupted.
All the logs I posted are from immediately after a freeze. I first started into runlevel 2 and copied the files before going to runlevel 5 and posting the copies.
BTW Can you easily recreate a freeze?
One way I already mentioned is the foreground selection in gimp. Now I’ve found another one that works quite reliably: I go to the dvi preview in lyx, hold the left mouse button pressed over the preview and move the mouse around. X freezes within about a sendond.
In Xorg .0.log I found the following error lines:
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)
both are almost at the beginning of the file.
I only have nVidia cards so I’m not sure but maybe the propritary driver is more stable.
Try them again to see if they don’t create a freeze.
Those two modules are both about fonts.
Freetype is no longer needed since openSUSE 11.1.
I’m not sure about type1 but I think it isn’t needed either.
So you can remove or comment out the lines under the module section:
I tried the proprietary driver and X didn’t start any more (No screens found). According to the German SUSE wiki, the proprietary driver only works with cards that are stille supported by ATI. Mine isn’t.
Sorry, I didn’t know that.
There’s nothing else to it then using the opensource driver again.
When you have them installed try renaming xorg.conf with this command and reboot:
mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BU
When you reboot there’s no xorg.conf so a new one will be created.
If you’ve done that could you post your xorg.conf?
X did not automatically create a new xorg.conf, so I created it with sax2. I changed the resolution and monitor type (the assumed configuration was terrible for my eyes), then I saved the new config.
Sorry, you’re right in openSUSE 11.2 a xorg.conf isn’t needed.
So you can try two things:
See if you can recreate the freeze with your new xorg.conf.
See if you can recreate the freeze with no xorg.conf.
You say that you have a Radeon X800 XT but in your new xorg.conf it says that you have a “Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP)”.
So which card do you have?
Sometimes adding your user to the video and games group solve xorg problems.
To do this go to Yast->Security And Users->User and Group Management.
Select your user and click on edit. Go to the tab “details”.
On the right you’ll see a list with “Additional Groups”.
Select the games and video group and click OK.
