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    Default Keeping the system clean

    Hi all,

    I've installed Suse 11.2 today. Been messing around with it a bit too. Installed some software, didn't like it, removed it again. My problem is, these programs installed a lot of extra packages. Is there any way to get rid of these again? Because I don't like the idea of filling up my installation with packages that I don't actually use (since they came with software I now uninstalled).

  2. #2

    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    Not really you could perhaps go through logs if it really bothers you. Next time you install you'll just be more aware, or take backups before playing.

    You could add another vote to this you never know perhaps 11.3 will be the one...
    https://features.opensuse.org/300758

    but I wouldn't hold your breath.
    Man first, have a try at Info, have a look at Wiki, if all that fails Scroogle!!!!!
    If I've helped click on the Rep button I don't know what it does but it sounds cool.

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    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    I see that other distro's like Ubuntu and Gentoo do have this... I don't want to have to switch Hope something like this gets in soon. I'll just mess around with it for a while and when I know what I want, I'll do a clean install (and next time see if I can make a backup before doing anything, haha).

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    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    Well if it is that big a concern I guess you'll be switching only you know whether it is such a big concern.

    Whilst I'd like the ability, with a 300gb HDD I'm really not going to worry about several 100mb or even a GB.

    Though I suspect comment 15 is still valid

    We don't have the resources to implementing this. Seems to be a prefect fit for a community project.
    Every one is waiting for someone else to do it...

    Edit
    You also have some non-supported ways rpmorphan for example but careful usage is needed.
    Man first, have a try at Info, have a look at Wiki, if all that fails Scroogle!!!!!
    If I've helped click on the Rep button I don't know what it does but it sounds cool.

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    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

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    If the software you install is RPM-based you can see the order of all RPM
    installs (including this one and its dependencies) via the following command:

    rpm -qa --last > /tmp/allRpmsInDescendingOrder.txt

    Anything installed seconds before your software is probably added by it.
    Keep in mind that a lot of these dependencies will probably be needed
    again and aren't worth cleaning up now just to be added again in an hour
    or two by something else.

    Good luck.






    On 04/24/2010 03:26 PM, FeatherMonkey wrote:
    >
    > Well if it is that big a concern I guess you'll be switching only you
    > know whether it is such a big concern.
    >
    > Whilst I'd like the ability, with a 300gb HDD I'm really not going to
    > worry about several 100mb or even a GB.
    >
    > Though I suspect comment 15 is still valid
    >
    >> We don't have the resources to implementing this. Seems to be a prefect
    >> fit for a community project.

    >
    > Every one is waiting for someone else to do it...
    >
    >

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    DenverD NNTP User

    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    Neko Koneko wrote:

    > I don't like the idea of filling up my installation with packages that I don't actually use


    just some things to consider: if you both install and uninstall with
    YaST it will normally remove everything it 'knows' is not being used
    by something else...however, there will be a few odds and ends left
    over, but usually not so much you really need to worry about it (if
    you are running modern big capacity hardware/drives and don't have it
    already jammed up with Old BloatWare in a dual boot scenario)..

    another thing to think about is that you will never live long enough
    to try *all* the free software available...in fact, you won't have the
    time to just keep up with always loading/having the latest version of
    everything you really like...

    so, relax...Linux is not Redmond and you do not have to have it all,
    or even the most current to be really cool (stable, dependable,
    uninfected and etc)..

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    jdd NNTP User

    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    Le 25/04/2010 10:10, DenverD a crit :

    > another thing to think about is that you will never live long enough
    > to try *all* the free software available...in fact, you won't have the
    > time to just keep up with always loading/having the latest version of
    > everything you really like...


    I remember the (old) time where the SuSE cd YaST had a "all" option in
    install... almost 15Go with all installed (however, that was not
    really all, because some conflicts)

    now what would be the size of "all"?

    jdd

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    DenverD NNTP User

    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    jdd wrote:
    > now what would be the size of "all"?


    well, it won't fit on a DVD, or two or three...depends on where you
    wanna stop considering "all"...i mean go to sourceforge.org and look
    around..

    *then* when you have gobbled up all the open source software for linux
    go get some of the industrial strength stuff you must *pay* to
    have...(like the kinds of packages used to make DreamWorks Shrek [try
    this: http://www.google.com/search?q=shrek+linux] that stuff takes BIG
    bucks and heavy duty servers)

    but, take lots of drive space with you!!

    this Linux is not for kids! there is a reason that 99% plus of the top
    500 supercomputers in the world do not use Redmond software.. cite:
    http://www.top500.org/stats/list/34/os (and the reason is NOT just
    because it is free)

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    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    Quote Originally Posted by jdd View Post
    Le 25/04/2010 10:10, DenverD a crit :

    > another thing to think about is that you will never live long enough
    > to try *all* the free software available...in fact, you won't have the
    > time to just keep up with always loading/having the latest version of
    > everything you really like...


    I remember the (old) time where the SuSE cd YaST had a "all" option in
    install... almost 15Go with all installed (however, that was not
    really all, because some conflicts)

    now what would be the size of "all"?

    jdd
    all distro specific -- as in will run on openSUSE == probably > 500,000 packages
    all free Linux -- may or may not run on openSUSE > 10 million packages
    all Linux compatible -- may or may not run/may be free or non-free == Probably > 100 million packages

    consider that there are over 30 known shells in regular use and maybe more not so well known and out of all those most people will find bash all they will ever need. If by chance you do need a different one you go and get it but you don't go out and get every shell concievable.
    When your up to your a** in Alligators it's pretty hard to remember you intended to drain the swamp (author unknown)

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    Default Re: Keeping the system clean

    If I test out some software which installs additional packages for dependency reasons, I just use konsole to keep me orientated of which packages have been added on.

    Konsole: rpm -qa --last | less

    Much like ab@novell.com said, but easier, in my opinion, if you take one step at a time and do not install everything at once.

    Cheers

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