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    Default taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    Hey all

    I've been thinking of going into opensuse for a long time and now with KDE 4.4 is finally out - I'm going to do it. The installation shouldn't be a problem but I wonder how I can upgrade to kde 4.4, since opensuse 11.2 will have 4.3 by default? I saw in the documentation to add these repos:
    # Core packages: http://download.opensuse.org/reposit.../openSUSE_11.2
    # Community: Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop
    # Playground: Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop

    Now my question is, whats the diffrence between core, community and playground? And isnt there "stable" repos for the KDE 4.4 release? And are there a repo with amarok 2.3 Beta?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Default Re: taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    KDE/Repositories - openSUSE should explain but is a bit dubious on core but it is really self explanatory it is the minimum needed.

    As for stable how can there be a stable one it is not even a month old. Schedules/KDE4/4.4 Release Schedule - KDE TechBase Not to mention Suse isn't a rolling release so stable means at release time that is patched. Factory is the development tree which is following upstream till they determine the freeze and then only accept fixes.

    As for amarok and not having checked I would guess 2.2.90 is the beta as the >90 normally means the next version, sometimes the RC but not being interested I'm not researching the version number. Webpin
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    Default Re: taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    I just checked KDE/Repositories - openSUSE for explanation on the diffrent "levels" of repositories but I can't say that it made me any wiser. is it fair to translate core to minimal packages, community to extras and playground to bleeding edge? And I guess its enough to just add community repo, or does it depend of core repo aswell in order to be functional?

    I'm converting from ubuntu so I'm kinda used to their package management system!

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    Default Re: taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    KhaaL wrote:
    > I'm converting from ubuntu so I'm kinda used to their package
    > management system!


    i'd say it is best to kinda forget for now what they use and the way
    it is laid out and how the repos are named....instead do reading:
    these should get your started:

    http://en.opensuse.org/Concepts
    all of it, but especially section 2 (on package management) we don't
    use apt, instead YaST or Zypper...both are explained..

    as for repos see post #4 in this thread: http://tinyurl.com/yhf65pv
    which basically informs that you can get by for days, weeks YEARS with
    four repos enabled....and CAUTION, do not add more unless you have
    specific needs and understand what is going on..

    however! being new to openSUSE you should go through that entire
    thread, as well as this one: http://tinyurl.com/ycly3eg

    yes, it will take a little time....but, it will be time well spent and
    can EASILY save several days of frustration, re-doing, trying to
    recover lost stuff....etc..

    --
    palladium

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    Default Re: taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    What he said ^

    But no not really factory would be like installing components from Lucid Lynx into Karmic Koala and wondering why you have a cat that looks like a bear I wouldn't recommend it for a novice user being able to undo it is needed before doing it.

    But yes I suppose core minimal, community to extras(Probably but these are community contribs), bleeding edge more than likely. The short story this is a moving target in release scheduled distro, to not expect to encounter the odd hiccup would be naive.
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    Default Re: taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    thanks all, those were great links! Though i still dont think i understand how the repos work with all their diffrent priorities, i think i'm getting the hand of zypper... me like!

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    Default Re: taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    Priorities basically is preference for example if there was program a on repo z and y it would be determined by the repository with the lowest number(Lower the number higher the priority).

    Generally with the 4 core ones they should be fine(OSS, Non-Oss, Updates and packman) you probably want to make sure Updates is slightly higher priority. The others are preferential some like to make packman lower to supersede the other ones, others like it equal to choose the latest from either(Though generally they won't see changes), then others would prefer packman over others.

    I have to admit to falling into all the same therefore getting the latest regardless of repo. Generally with those few you'll encounter few problems or need to worry about priorities it's when you add less supported repos, decisions on how you'll manage it will need to be taken.
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    Default Re: taking the plunge into opensuse - several questions

    FeatherMonkey. Please see the following thread. Some of us have questions about this. Now that we have the ability to Switch System Packages to different repos, are the Priority settings even working when we use them? I was going to give an answer in this thread about how to set priorities, but I had just read the other thread and did not know what to say.

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