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    Default Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    After a misguided attempt to upgrade Pango/Cairo etc. I am left with a Gnome desktop with no fonts and the Pango errors below. I have managed some partial repairs with the use of symlinks pointing back from /usr/local....

    I'd really like to revert to the installed setup. Yast tells me I have the original installed versions. Despite that and having re-installed everything I still have the problem. I have searched high and low but although quite a few have suffered similarly I have not found any answers. Everyone tries uninstalling/reinstalling but it does not seem to help. Is there really no way to remove Gnome and associated packages and re-install them?


    (gnome-session:8978): Pango-WARNING **: failed to choose a font, expect ugly output. engine-type='PangoRenderFc', script='latin'

    (gnome-session:8978): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed

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    Default Re: Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    Did you try uninstalling pango???

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    Default Re: Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    Does the problem persist if you create a new user an log in as that user?

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    Default Re: Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    NickHoare wrote:
    > After a misguided attempt to upgrade Pango/Cairo etc. ... Is there really no way to remove Gnome and associated packages
    > and re-install them?


    first: Linux is a relatively stable and predictable system....that
    means that to fix a problem it it is VERY seldom necessary to
    uninstall and reinstall because you are most likely to end up with
    exactly the same problem you had...(same for some other systems
    routine 'fix it' of just rebooting--get out of that habit also..)

    it is always better to be able to undo what you did that broke your
    system..

    you said you had a "misguided" attempt...can you look at that guide
    and back track to undo all you did?

    i mean, if you used YaST to install a new version of Pango (whatever
    that is) you should be able to go back into YaST and re-install the
    old version..

    if you can't undo, the very best, dependable and proven way is to
    restore from your backup..

    that is, make a backup of your system prior to any potential
    "misguided" experiments, trials, changes, upgrades, updates etc etc
    etc....and, then if something goes wrong you can restore your
    previous, working system from the backup..

    i suppose you didn't do a backup?

    you might *try* to add a new user (using YaST) and then log out, and
    log back in as the new user...if (and that is a BIG if) things work ok
    again in Gnome you are very lucky because all that is broken is your
    personal user settings for Gnome in /home/[you]/.gnome and you are
    probably close to fixed...

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    Firstly than you for your helpful replies (particularly palladium - just the kind of answer I appreciate)

    This is on a new, not live server. I have an (almost) exact copy that is still fine and running a little bit of Groupwise - the wonders of drbd.

    I have tried another user - no luck.

    A bit of background. As a Linux newbie I was trying to trace an odd networking issue and as I would on Windows I downloaded a tracing utility (Etherape) and installed it according to its instructions. It said it needed new library versions to work and so I downloaded, configured, make, make install these. I thought these were special graphics libraries and did not know that these were actually core GUI libraries. (My mindset is still Windows - it needs to go back to my VMS days)

    Anyway I did look to undo what I did however neither rpm nor Yast see that anything has changed. They both report that the installed versions are still the original versions. So there appears to be no way to 'undo' as nothing has been done. Yet clearly it has.

    You were right palladium. A wholesale uninstall/reinstall of the Gnome Desktop under 'patterns' brought me back to the same place.

    And yes, whilst I have a backup, it is a little older than I am happy with but it looks like my only option?

    What I am quite concerned about is how relatively easy it was to 'trash' the GUI. Though admittedly Groupwise continued to function.

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    palladium NNTP User

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    NickHoare wrote:
    > And yes, whilst I have a backup, it is a little older than I am happy
    > with but it looks like my only option?


    that may be the only option to repair your Gnome, however:

    ok...so, you have a background with Redmond software and therefore a
    tendency to run your servers with a GUI....that is understandable
    however you might want to consider running Groupwise (or most any
    other server without even installing X, much less Gnome or KDE on
    top...instead let me suggest you investigate something like Webmin
    <http://www.webmin.com/> to administer your server from afar (next
    desk OR around the world) using a web browser running locally on your
    own workstation (whether Linux, Unix, Mac or PlayStation...oh, and
    even Windows95 or 'better')..

    let me say that a different way: i'm not aware of any server software
    which *requires* the server itself to either have or use a GUI...such
    just soaks up CPU cycles, bus interrupts etc etc etc needless to the
    job of *serving*..

    of course, i don't know much about Groupwise or anything else server
    based (i'm a generalist, and generally a desktop user...so..)

    now, on top of that let me GUESS that you are not actually using
    openSUSE, are you? i guess you are using SUSE Linux Enterprise Server
    (SLES)....at least if *i* were running a high availability cluster to
    support Groupwise (or anything) i'd not be subjecting myself to the
    constant turnover of openSUSE releases (which currenly live *only* 18
    months from birth to death (initial release to no more security
    patches/updates) which means about every year you are forced to
    rebuild ALL machines...

    AND, if you understand the relationship of openSUSE to SLES you will
    know that the free open software is best though of as a proving
    grounds used to kill bugs and prep bleeding edge to eventually morph
    into real, stable, dependable (ah yes) Enterprise ready software..

    lets learn exactly what system you have, at a command line:

    cat /etc/SuSE-release

    because i think we will find you are using SLES and therefore need to
    finish this discussion with the source of that software, Novell.com
    where you PAY for support, and should therefore get it..

    but, before you go let me agree that trashing Gnome is FAR too
    easy...especially if you don't dabble in the care and feeding of the
    Linux desktop everyday...AND, if you make the mistake of thinking a
    fancy flashy desktop dock is gonna make your job as a Linux
    Administrator more meaningful or fun...well, its kinda like if you
    drive a heavy duty, industrial strength earth mover all day long every
    day i know on your way home it sure would be nice to have a sports
    cars to get some excitement in your life and wind in your hair...but,
    shiny trim on your earth mover is not gonna trip your trigger nor will
    it help the get the *work* done....so, imho keep those two independent
    (and run your servers in runlevel 3 with no X)

    obviously, ymmv....do that cat and come back..(or seek real,
    professional assistance over in forums.novell.com [professional there
    whereas about 99.9% of here are volunteer users helping 'misguided'
    users and almost no one on a payroll])..

    there or here you can investigate your networking issue which probably
    does not need and will not benefit from a GUI based program....the
    name "wireshark" springs to mind and though i've never used it i very
    much doubt it is a GUI (as far as i know there is only one maker on
    earth who 'pushes' servers with a GUI..)

    let us know how you get on...please (and, there may even be someone
    here who can eventually FORCE your Gnome to live again...if you are
    running openSUSE)

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    Default Re: Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    I have managed to install KDE. Now I get a login screen I can read and KDE starts fine. I (already!) prefer it to Gnome. I thought I came across an application which showed no text but going back again I can't find it. One or 2 things don't work. E.g. hb_gui with a python/cairo/gtk library error and Acronis backup just doesn't start. But these are minor issues that I hope to fix with new versions.

    So how come KDE has fonts when Gnome hasn't. Don't they both use Pango?

    I need Acronis to restore the backup. I'm not sure I trust the bootable version which lists drives as letters, does not read Linux file systems and so can only restore with CIFS from a Windows share! And so it goes on.

    But hey, I've found KDE!

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    Default Re: Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    Automatic Updates is the one with no fonts

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    Default Re: Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    It sounds like you have a parallel install that is causing conflicts. As this was installed with the '/usr/local' prefix, it may be as simple as as doing an uninstall in the source terminal. If you still have the source code intact, try

    make uninstall

    in the terminal in the source code directory, just as you did the install.

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    palladium NNTP User

    Default Re: Is it actually possible to fully reinstall Gnome?

    NickHoare wrote:

    > But hey, I've found KDE!


    did i post to a vacuum?

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