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    Default Can't find Kiwi

    Hi I installed kiwi in Suse 11.2 and can't find it, can someone tell me how to find and use it.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Can't find Kiwi

    I haven't installed it, but I imagine bringing up Alt+f2 then typing kiwi and hitting enter will work...?

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    Default Re: Can't find Kiwi

    Or you can just type kiwi at the command line...

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    stormbay wrote:
    > Hi I installed kiwi in Suse 11.2 and can't find it, can someone tell me
    > how to find and use it.


    is that "SLED 11 SP2" or "SLES 11 SP2" or is that "openSUSE 11.2"

    as far as i know there is no Suse 11.2 anything...


    what is "kiwi"?
    i get 52,000 hits at google/linux for "kiwi"

    1. a thin client?
    http://www.osnews.com/story/21069/Op..._Client_Server

    2. a anti-virus? http://kiwispam.sourceforge.net/

    3. an Ubuntu derivative? http://www.kiwilinux.org/kiwi/en/

    gimme a hint please!!

    how did you install it?

    i ask, because if you installed it with YaST, i'd expect it to be in
    your menu

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    Default Re: Can't find Kiwi

    Kiwi is supposedly a cloning software for Opensuse, I downloaded it through the package manager but can't find it anywhere.

    Build Service/KIWI - openSUSE

    It seems it's not your average package and you may have to build it or something. I just thought there may be some who have set it up and can tel me how to do the same easily, but maybe I'm wrong.

    My experience with opensuse has been great, but support and help seems almost non existent and almost closed shop, compared to the enthusiastic help you get with Ubuntu and other distros.

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    stormbay wrote:
    > Kiwi is supposedly a cloning software for Opensuse, I downloaded it
    > through the package manager but can't find it anywhere.


    well, i had never heard of it before but i did read the FAQ and can
    see why you find it in your menu...i bet if you read the documentation
    provided *on* the page you cited you will get along fine with
    it...but, i know i have no need for it, at all and i reckon it is
    mostly for software developers.....are you one?

    there is also listed on that URL the address for a mail list for both
    KIWI developers and users....so, i'd ask you next KIWI questions
    there....at the very least most there will not have to wonder if it is
    a thin-client, Ubuntu distro or what!!


    > My experience with opensuse has been great, but support and help seems
    > almost non existent and almost closed shop, compared to the enthusiastic
    > help you get with Ubuntu and other distros.


    well, you need to use the software you are most happy with..

    and, calling this a "closed shop" after asking rather than *reading*
    the page you had in front of you is....well....is just testament to
    how little you have read here, try this to UN-close yourself:

    while looking at this answer in the forum, look to the left and see
    "Wiki", click on that.

    from there you can link to several sources:

    Code:
    -on the left are links for:
    --Documentation with links to
    ---User Documentation (installable *on* your system)
    ---Configuration
    ---HOWTOS
    ---etc
    --Support Database
    --Support, with links to
    ---Mailing lists (for several subjects and in many languages)
    ---IRC
    ---Usenet
    ---etc
    -Official openSUSE Documentation:
    http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse112/

    and, there are multiple other net based resources...a few of those are:

    http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Beginners_Guides
    http://opensuse-tutorials.com/
    http://www.susegeek.com/
    http://www.swerdna.net.au/linux.html
    http://opensuse-community.org/
    http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/
    http://susewiki.org/
    http://opensuse-guide.org/

    and, the information on *generic* (ie, non-openSUSE) Linux is both
    staggering, and indispensable as it is the BASICS which with some
    exceptions apply to all distributions, a few of my favorites are:

    Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition http://rute.2038bug.com/
    Linux Knowledge Base/Tutorial http://www.linux-tutorial.info/index.php
    Tille's Site http://tille.garrels.be/training/


    Linux Documentation Project http://tldp.org/index.html
    Linux Documentation Project/Guides http://tldp.org/guides.html
    with links to
    - Introduction to Linux - A Hands on Guide
    - Bash Guide for Beginners
    - Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
    - GNU/Linux Command-Line Tools Summary
    - The Linux System Administrators' Guide
    - Pocket Linux Guide
    - Linux Dictionary
    - Linux From Scratch
    - Securing & Optimizing Linux: The Ultimate Solution
    - The Linux Network Administrator's Guide, Second Edition
    - Linux Administrator's Security Guide
    - Linux System Administration Made Easy
    - and others

    FLOSS Manuals http://en.flossmanuals.net/gnulinux
    The Easiest Linux Guide You'll Ever Read
    http://www.letslearnlinux.com/susebl...guide_ever.pdf

    and, do not forget http://www.google.com/linux

    oh, and i think Novell and many others have accredited and industry
    recognized courses available, maybe online...i have no idea how good
    they are, how much they cost or if you would be happy with the price..

    but, don't expect us to enthusiastically do your reading for you...if
    that is what they do in Ubuntu forums, and you like that, then . . .

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    Default Re: Can't find Kiwi

    I did read through the whole lot and understand it's more for developers, I was asking if anyone had used it and I have asked questions to the developers, but non reply to 4 requests in more than 3 weeks.

    I don't have a problem using Ubuntu and other distros, I've been using linux for a few years. Other distros are easy to get around in and learn. I always leave seeking help until I've made my own searches and come to dead ends.

    But as you clearly haven't heard of "Kiwi" and a mere mortal like I have. it appears It's not me who haven't done their opensuse reading. All I'm trying to do is make live Iso's of my opensuse system which I can distribute to friends as I do with Ubuntu, it's the best backup and easiest way to save your system.

    With an arrogant attitude like yours, I can understand why people stick to inferior software called windows. You'd turn anyone off.

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    Default Re: Can't find Kiwi

    Kiwi isn't backup/cloning software. It is used to create live CD images. For this purpose, SUSE Studio is a better way to go. It's much easier and faster to use than Kiwi.

    http://susestudio.com/

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    stormbay wrote:
    > I did read through the whole lot ... With an arrogant attitude like yours,


    with an attitude like mine i found your answer (FOR you) in about two
    minutes (once i knew what you meant by "kiwi") with a google search
    string like "sitepensuse.org kiwi faq"

    try it, http://www.google.com/search?q=site%...e.org+kiwi+faq

    then click on the *first* hit and see the *first* question gives the
    answer you sought..

    Q: Is there a GUI for KIWI ?

    Yes,
    -there is YaST module for kiwi called Image Creator providing
    graphical interaction
    -SUSE Studio is a web based front end for Kiwi.
    <http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/KIWI/Cookbook/FAQ#Q:_Is_there_a_GUI_for_KIWI_.3F>
    you can get mad and attack me if want...or you could choose to learn
    some googleFU..the choice is yours alone.

    having left the kiddie M$ and Ubundu crowd you will do yourself well
    to become familiar with http://is.gd/2BfI3

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