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    Default Re: openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    • 8. List of ATI/nVidia/Intel drivers open source versions in openSUSE.
      This will be a NEW post where I list what graphic driver versions are in the xorg-x11-driver-video rpm for nv, radeon, and intel opensource drivers. The idea being it will save each of our forum users time, so that they do not have to each do this to figure out their driver version (assuming they are using "as packaged" by Novell/SuSE-GmbH rpms).
    This is what I have in mind:

    The following provides a list of the graphic driver versions available in the various supported openSUSE distribution versions. Knowing the version number can be useful at times, when trying to determine the level of support for one's hardware (as one can use that information when reading the graphic driver release note on the appropriate developers website).

    radeon driver and also radeon driver information here
    • 11.0 : 6.8.0*
    • 11.1 : 6.9.0*
    • 11.2 : 6.12.4*
    • 11.3 : 6.13.0*
    • 11.4 RC1 : 6.14.0 *

    radeonhd driver and also radeonhd information here
    • 11.0 : 1.2.1_080522
    • 11.1 : 1.2.3_081202
    • 11.2 : 1.3.0_20091026
    • 11.3 : 1.3.0_20100325 *
    • 11.4 RC1 : 1.3.0_2010512 *

    nv driver and also nv driver information here
    • 11.0 : 2.1.9*
    • 11.1 : 2.1.12*
    • 11.2 : 2.1.14*
    • 11.3 : 2.1.17*
    • 11.4 RC1 : 2.1.18 *

    nouveau driver and also nouveau information here
    • 11.0 : 0.10.1_20080424*
    • 11.1 : n/a
    • 11.2 : n/a
    • 11.3 : 0.0.15_20100401
    • 11.4 RC1 : 0.0.16_20110115 *

    intel driver and also intel driver information here
    • 11.0 : 2.3.1*
    • 11.1 : 2.5.0*
    • 11.2 : 2.9.1*
    • 11.3 : 2.12.0*
    • 11.4 RC1 : 2.14.0 *

    i128 (intel) driver
    • 11.0 : 1.3.0
    • 11.1 : 1.3.1
    • 11.2 : 1.3.3
    • 11.3 : 1.3.3
    • 11.4 RC1 : 1.3.4

    i740 (intel) driver
    • 11.0 : 1.2.0
    • 11.1 : 1.2.0
    • 11.2 : 1.3.2
    • 11.3 : 1.3.2
    • 11.4 RC1 : 1.3.2

    i810
    • 11.0 : 1.7.4
    • 11.1 to 11.3 M6 : n/a

    Intellegacy (custom SuSE-GmbH build of Intel-2.9.1 driver for older hardware)
    • 11.0 : n/a
    • 11.1 : n/a
    • 11.2 : n/a
    • 11.3 : 2.9.1-1.9 *
    • 11.4 RC1 : 2.9.1-5

    vesa driver
    • 11.0 : 1.3.0
    • 11.1 : 2.0.0*
    • 11.2 : 2.2.1*
    • 11.3 : 2.2.1*
    • 11.4 RC1 2.3.0 *

    fbdev driver
    • 11.0 : 0.4.0
    • 11.1 : 0.4.0
    • 11.2 : 0.4.1*
    • 11.3 : 0.4.1*
    • 11.4 RC1 : 0.4.2

    Wacom driver (for tablets)
    • 11.1 : 0.8.1*
    • 11.2 : 0.8.3
    • 11.3 : 0.10.5
    • 11.4 RC1 : 0.10.8

    EVtouch (for tablets)
    • 11.1 : 0.8.7 *
    • 11.2 : 0.8.7 *
    • 11.3 : 0.8.8 *
    • 11.4 RC1 : 0.8.8*


    An " * " means there were additional Novell/SuSE-GmbH patches applied to the driver version quoted.
    Last edited by oldcpu; 14-Feb-2011 at 01:32. Reason: updated for 11.4 RC1

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    Long a supporter of the "radeonhd" driver it appears Novell/SuSE-GmbH are categorizing the "radeonhd" driver as "superseded", and are instead providing support to the "radeon" opensource driver.

    I note this Phoroenix article:

    And also this note in the Milestone6 news: openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 6
    radeon video driver has superseded radeonhd, providing KMS/DRI support. (Bug #574749, Bug #590248, Bug #595653, Bug #598123)

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    Sax2 depreciated - Sax3 under development

    openSUSE comes with a wizard for configuring the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file automatically. However as of openSUSE-11.2, for most users, the xorg.conf file is not needed. For that reason, and also due to the excessive complexity/effort in maintenance, the decision was made by SuSE-GmbH to depreciate sax2. Thus sax2 no longer will support all graphic cards, and it is being phased out. It is no longer part of YaST, and it is no longer on the openSUSE-11.3

    Note: this is not a thread for rants against the above decision. Any non-technical posts on the subject of this depreciation of sax2 will be either deleted or moved as they do NOT belong in this guide.

    Edit: sax2 has been officially removed from openSUSE-11.3, so this has been updated to reflect that.

    While sax2 has been discontinued, there is a sax3 version under development. It is not yet complete, but you may find it useful, even in these early development stages. You can find it here sax3 development page

    The repository for openSUSE-11.3 sax3 is here:
    Code:
     http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/sax/openSUSE_11.3/
    .
    The repository for openSUSE-11.4 sax3 is here:
    Code:
     http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/sax/openSUSE_11.4/
    .
    The repository for openSUSE-12.1 sax3 is here
    Code:
     http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/sax/openSUSE_12.1/
    Add the repository appropriate to your openSUSE version, then install sax3 and then with root permissions run sax3.
    Last edited by oldcpu; 28-Dec-2011 at 15:55. Reason: added reference to sax3

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    This is what I have in mind:

    The following provides a list of the graphic driver versions available in the various supported openSUSE distribution versions. Knowing the version number can be useful at times,...
    Here are the current driver versions available for VIA graphic chipsets:

    unichrome driver
    This driver is installed from the appropriate openSUSE distribution repository (oss).
    • 11.1 : 20080807-12.44
    • 11.2 : 20091020-1.1.1
    • 11.3 M6 : 20091117-3.1

    openchrome driver
    This driver is community packaged and is installed from OpenSUSE Build Service. The version/release level is normally included in the package name. A more recent version may get backported for these releases of openSUSE, and the versions listed here may become unavailable.
    • 11.1 : 0.2.904-4.1
    • 11.2 : 0.2.904-4.1
    • 11.3 M6 : 0.2.904-4.4

    Please note that you need to select Factory when searching OBS for 11.3 Milestone drivers.

    chrome9 (or via) driver
    This driver is community packaged and is installed from OpenSUSE Build Service. The version/release level is normally included in the package name. A more recent version may get backported for these releases of openSUSE, and the versions listed here may become unavailable.
    • 11.1 : 5.74.33-2.5
    • 11.2 : 5.74.33-2.1
    • 11.3 M6 : 5.74.33-2.2

    Please note that you need to select Factory when searching OBS for 11.3 Milestone drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Sax2 depreciated

    openSUSE comes with a wizard for configuring the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file automatically. However as of openSUSE-11.2, for most users, the xorg.conf file is not needed...
    This is not a request for help, just an early example of Xorg's new autoconfiguration process in action, with respect to loading drivers for VIA graphic chipsets. In this case it's a Unichrome Pro K8M800. In addition to the "unichrome" driver from the openSUSE oss repo, "openchrome" and "chrome9" ("via" is its new module name) drivers were installed from OBS Factory. It's not clear if the OBS sourced drivers were targeted at M6, so their failures to load are unsurprising.

    Here is a sample of my Xorg.0.log from testing 11.3 M6 that was installed using the KDE liveCD:
    Code:
    [    16.176] (==) Matched via as autoconfigured driver 0
    [    16.176] (==) Matched openchrome as autoconfigured driver 1
    [    16.176] (==) Matched unichrome as autoconfigured driver 2
    [    16.176] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
    [    16.176] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4
    [    16.176] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
    [    16.176] (II) LoadModule: "via"
    [    16.182] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/via_drv.so
    [    16.206] dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/via_drv.so: undefined symbol: resVgaShared
    [    16.206] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/via_drv.so
    [    16.206] (II) UnloadModule: "via"
    [    16.206] (EE) Failed to load module "via" (loader failed, 7)
    [    16.206] (II) LoadModule: "openchrome"
    [    16.207] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/updates/drivers/openchrome_drv.so
    [    16.243] dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/updates/drivers/openchrome_drv.so: undefined symbol: resVgaShared
    [    16.243] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/updates/drivers/openchrome_drv.so
    [    16.243] (II) UnloadModule: "openchrome"
    [    16.243] (EE) Failed to load module "openchrome" (loader failed, 7)
    [    16.243] (II) LoadModule: "unichrome"
    [    16.244] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/unichrome_drv.so
    [    16.244] (II) Module unichrome: vendor="http://unichrome.sf.net/"
    [    16.244] 	compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 0.2.0
    [    16.244] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
    [    16.244] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 7.0
    [    16.244] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
    [    16.246] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
    [    16.246] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    [    16.246] 	compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 0.4.1
    [    16.246] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 7.0
    [    16.246] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
    [    16.249] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
    [    16.250] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    [    16.250] 	compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 2.2.1
    [    16.250] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
    [    16.250] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 7.0
    The order of drivers shown in that clip from Xorg.0.log is interesting, and I assume that if all drivers are present and loadable, then the designated "driver 0" will be used. In that case it would have been VIA's own driver (i.e. chrome9), had it been loadable without error. On 11.2 that just happened to be the least reliable of the three hardware-specific drivers. For 11.3 (without using Sax2), you can avoid a driver by not installing it or by installing xorg.conf and configuring it for the required driver(s).

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    IMHO we need a section in this practical theory guide on how to handle case(s) where xorg does not detect the EDID/monitor properly. ... For example this thread comes to mind (see post #7).

    Any volunteers to write something up and post in this thread?

    Ultimately the idea is once sufficiently mature/reviewed, it would be moved to join the "reviewed" section in this "openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide".

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    Any volunteers to write something up and post in this thread?
    I could assist a little here oldcpu (might take a little time though). Do I just contribute by way of a post here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deano_ferrari View Post
    I could assist a little here oldcpu (might take a little time though). Do I just contribute by way of a post here?
    I had you in mind for this.
    I think that is what Lee said :
    Any volunteers to write something up and post in this thread?

    You could always PM him first so it reduces edits and so nntp issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deano_ferrari View Post
    I could assist a little here oldcpu (might take a little time though). Do I just contribute by way of a post here?
    Yes please !! Post here.

    Post here, and if you want edits to your post (after the 10 minute time out), either repost, or just PM myself or one of the other mods, and we will edit your post.

    Once you think the post has gone through enough edits , I will reference it from the "reviewed" thread.

    And once I catch up in moving posts to the REVIEWED area (and I am dreadfully behind) I will also move it to the REVIEWED area.

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    Lee,

    Are you planning to edit the SDB wiki edit to encompass 11.3
    SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE

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