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    Angry KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    Hello,
    I'm recently experiencing usability problems with my KDE 4.3 always up to date. My system is becoming really difficult to use as I'm also a Windows user.

    Here are my troubles:

    *URL highlighting
    Wherever in my system I higlight a URL with my mouse, a pop-up window appears asking me to open that URL in Firefox, or send its link via Thunerbird.
    OK, that's really funny, but I'm not comfortable with it: often I just have to copy and paste the URL to another place than browser's URL field, and this forces me to remember to press ESC and I get stuck with it when I forgot and rapidly use keyboard and mouse and then lose more time

    *Screensaver's password box disappearing: since before the upgrade from 11.1 to 11.2 when I was going to exit the screensaver the login box displays just as a big empty gray box: I can actually type my password, press enter, and be back into the system. But it doesn't look good... I cannot even use the change user function as no button is displayed!

    *Automatic copy of highlighted text: THIS IS THE ONE I HATE MOST
    When I highlight text it automatically gets copied to the clipboard!! So if I select and copy text, ie. from browser, and try to REPLACE another text field in any program I simply get the same text back and not the one I copied!!!!
    This is really frustrating, as it's been years that I highlight the text I want to replace, and it's going to be really difficult to change my attitude!

    Can somebody help me please?
    Thank you in advance

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    Barry Nichols NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    Hi,

    djechelon <djechelon@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> writes:

    > Hello,
    > I'm recently experiencing usability problems with my KDE 4.3 always up
    > to date. My system is becoming really difficult to use as I'm also a
    > Windows user.
    >
    > Here are my troubles:
    >
    > *URL highlighting
    > Wherever in my system I higlight a URL with my mouse, a pop-up window
    > appears asking me to open that URL in Firefox, or send its link via
    > Thunerbird.
    > OK, that's really funny, but I'm not comfortable with it: often I just
    > have to copy and paste the URL to another place than browser's URL
    > field, and this forces me to remember to press ESC and I get stuck with
    > it when I forgot and rapidly use keyboard and mouse and then lose
    > more time
    >


    There should be a button on the pop up window to dissable it, I did this
    as I also found this feature annoying.

    > *Screensaver's password box disappearing: since before the upgrade from
    > 11.1 to 11.2 when I was going to exit the screensaver the login box
    > displays just as a big empty gray box: I can actually type my password,
    > press enter, and be back into the system. But it doesn't look good... I
    > cannot even use the change user function as no button is displayed!
    >


    I have had problems with the password box reapearing with some
    screensavers, but it seems to work fine with others. You could try
    changing screensavers to see if you have similar results.

    > *Automatic copy of highlighted text: THIS IS THE ONE I HATE
    > MOST
    > When I highlight text it automatically gets copied to the clipboard!!
    > So if I select and copy text, ie. from browser, and try to REPLACE
    > another text field in any program I simply get the same text back and
    > not the one I copied!!!!
    > This is really frustrating, as it's been years that I highlight the
    > text I want to replace, and it's going to be really difficult to change
    > my attitude!


    I have never experienced this, I copy text and highlight the text I am
    going to paste it on all the time. Unless this is linked to the first
    problem you mentioned which, as I said, I dissabled when it first
    appeared on my computer.

    >
    > Can somebody help me please?
    > Thank you in advance



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    Barry Nichols

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    palladium NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    djechelon wrote:

    > My system is becoming really difficult to use as I'm also a
    > Windows user.


    i really hate it when i use Windows and it will NOT automatically copy
    highlighted text to the clipboard---that is so stupid to not do such
    an obvious thing!

    why would anyone want to highlight text and not copy it? i mean, do
    you highlight text just so it is highlighted, and you then STOP it
    from being highlighted and move to some other text and highlight it,
    then move again? i mean, when you highlight text is is SO you can then
    make *another movement* and then copy to clip board....

    make it *automatic* in Windows...do NOT even think about changing it
    in Linux!

    and screensaver with password: just turn it off...or do you think the
    password protects you machine? nope, walk away from it and it will NOT
    be safe from me! turn off the password, it just gives you a *false*
    sense of security...and, by the way, screen savers were invented in
    the '80s when screens would be *ruined* if the same thing stay on the
    screen for hours....that will NOT happen now, so now all they do is
    waster CPU cycles and energy...

    actually, the easiest way to solve all those problems is do what i
    did: banish Redmond from all computers in my reach and get used to
    doing highlight->copy to clip board all the time, everywhere...(unless
    you get forced into an internet cafe on a trip and *must* use the
    so-last-century (Windows) way of doing stuff, the hard way..

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    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    Sometimes you just want to replace the text. You know highlight then ctrl-V but if the system copies the text you end up pasting the value you just selected.

    I have only noticed this when pasting a link to FF ie highlight the current link and paste a new one but that now does not work you have to go to Klipper and select the previous text. It is definitely a feature I could do without!!!

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    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    Just figured out how to turn it off

    Klipper-configure-Clipboard/Selection Behavior

    Select - Separate Clipboard and Selection

    Then Check ignore selection

    It now works like god and Bill meant it to

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    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Just figured out how to turn it off

    Klipper-configure-Clipboard/Selection Behavior

    Select - Separate Clipboard and Selection

    Then Check ignore selection

    It now works like god and Bill meant it to
    Sorry if there is no reply rating button like in Yahoo Answers but, thanks, it DID solve my problem

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    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:42:10 +0000, palladium wrote:

    > i really hate it when i use Windows and it will NOT automatically copy
    > highlighted text to the clipboard


    Select all -> delete

    Select all -> paste clipboard over

    :-)

    Jim

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    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    Thanks Gogalthorp, it was bugging me too!

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    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:42:10 +0000, palladium wrote:

    > i really hate it when i use Windows and it will NOT automatically copy
    > highlighted text to the clipboard


    Select all -> delete

    Select all -> paste clipboard over

    :-)

    Jim

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    Sorry, it didn't work like that. The best option is

    Select all target text -> delete
    Select all source text (copy)
    Paste over target text



    After the fix it works fine

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    palladium NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.3 behaving harassing! Please help

    gogalthorp wrote:
    > You know highlight then ctrl-V


    no, i don't know ctrl-V..

    i do know (without having to think about it):
    ctrl-del
    ctrl-insert
    ctrl-backspace
    shift-insert
    shift-del
    shift-enter
    and some others....most of which don't see to work the same way in all
    of Redmond's offerings, which is one reason i find it so frustrating
    and stupid every time i'm forced to use alien proprietary in a
    library, internet cafe, hotel's complementary internet koisk, etc..

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