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    Default Re: What to do when no RPM is available but a DEB is availab

    Quote Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
    EDIT: they look like the same packages I found previously - either command line or plasmoid, but no full GUI for KDE.
    Can you explain "look like" ??

    Given they are on a KDE4 repository, I do not understand ..
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    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_43

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    Default Re: What to do when no RPM is available but a DEB is availab

    Quote Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
    I couldn't find deb,...
    I'm not advocating the use of alien, but the .deb files are easy to find.

    The .deb files are linked from the source forge page:
    Qalculate! - the ultimate desktop calculator which takes one here: Debian -- Package Search Results -- qalculate

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
    I'm inclined to just compile from source.
    Bad decision. After installing ALL X11 devel packages, I'm stuck here:

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    checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021) and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found.
    Giving up. I'll just use qalculate on my Ubuntu machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Can you explain "look like" ??

    Given they are on a KDE4 repository, I do not understand ..
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    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_43
    Well, there are a lot of packages there, so I sampled a few. And each one I checked was the command line only package - no GUI. Not sure what conclusions to draw about why someone put them in the KDE repos, but they are not GUI packages. I looked at a bunch of them -- every package was command line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    I'm not advocating the use of alien, but the .deb files are easy to find.

    The .deb files are linked from the source forge page:
    Qalculate! - the ultimate desktop calculator which takes one here: Debian -- Package Search Results -- qalculate
    I know about deb packages. I have qalculate installed on Ubuntu already. But I thought the previous post was saying there were two tools. One called alien and one called deb" (which I took to be a tool for converting rpms to debs). I guess I just read it wrong.

    And I am not highly inclined to use alien. I'm giving up on compiling from source because of the specific Qt requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
    I'm stuck:
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    checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
    Which packages contain rt_externs.h, X11/Intrinsic.h, etc.? Is it xorg-x11-libX11-devel ?

    There are a lot of choices...
    Did you install the KDE Development pattern from YaST > Software > Software Maintenance?

    Its a lot of packages, but typically development / custom building requires a lot of packages.

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    Default Re: What to do when no RPM is available but a DEB is availab

    Quote Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
    I know about deb packages. I have qalculate installed on Ubuntu already. But I thought the previous post was saying there were two tools. One called alien and one called deb" (which I took to be a tool for converting rpms to debs). I guess I just read it wrong.

    And I am not highly inclined to use alien. I'm giving up on compiling from source because of the specific Qt requirement.
    I agree with your assessment re: using alien. I deliberately left "alien" out of my software hints how-to.

    I think the odds of it working with KDE on openSUSE are slim if converted with alien.

    Still, for the record, my understanding is if you have a .deb application packaged as "package.deb" to convert it to an rpm one would type (using the most simple options):
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    alien --to-rpm package.deb

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Did you install the KDE Development pattern from YaST > Software > Software Maintenance?

    Its a lot of packages, but typically development / custom building requires a lot of packages.
    No, I picked the packages all manually. But next time I'll know about that pattern. However, as far as I can tell Qt3.1 is not easily available, and I'm not ready to go chasing down yet another unavailable package when I started by trying to chase down qalculate. That's one too many iterations for me.

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    Default Re: What to do when no RPM is available but a DEB is availab

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    I agree with your assessment re: using alien. I deliberately left "alien" out of my software hints how-to.

    I think the odds of it working with KDE on openSUSE are slim if converted with alien.

    Still, for the record, my understanding is if you have a .deb application packaged as "package.deb" to convert it to an rpm one would type (using the most simple options):
    Code:
    alien --to-rpm package.deb
    ... and for the above to work you need the rpm "alien" and the rpm "deb" installed.

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    Default Re: What to do when no RPM is available but a DEB is availab

    Quote Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
    And I am not highly inclined to use alien. I'm giving up on compiling from source because of the specific Qt requirement.
    As noted, I also am not inclined to use "alien" to convert .deb to .rpm packages.

    However, having typed that, I also have a "sandbox" PC on which I can experiment with ideas, to see if they work, so that if I mess things up totally, there is nothing lost except at the very worst the need to setup my sandbox PC again. Fortunately in today's day of quick openSUSE installations, that is easy. ...

    So I went here: Debian -- Package Download Selection -- qalculate-kde_0.9.6-3+b1_amd64.deb and downloaded: qalculate-kde_0.9.6-3+b1_amd64.deb .

    Note I have deb and alien installed:
    Code:
    oldcpu@hal1000:~/tars> rpm -q deb alien
    deb-1.15.0-14.3.x86_64
    alien-8.78-1.1.noarch
    Then I ran with root permissions on a 64-bit openSUSE-11.2 with KDE-4.3.4 :
    Code:
    alien --scripts --to-rpm qalculate-kde_0.9.6-3+b1_amd64.deb
    That created qalculate-kde-0.9.6-4.x86_64.rpm which I then installed with zypper:
    Code:
    zypper install qalculate-kde-0.9.6-4.x86_64.rpm
    That installed the executeable "qalculate-kde" in /usr/bin/

    I then ran qalculate-kde and it seems to work in KDE-4.3.4.

    As the saying goes YMMV (your mileage may vary).

    Have fun! and Merry Christmas !
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