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    Default OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    Hi


    I got fed-up with Windows and wanted to install perm. on my disk some linux - fedora, debian, opensuse, ubuntu, you name it....

    Started with Opensuse 11.2 x64 DVD

    First of all it was a disaster
    1. Opensuse was unable to boot after the start menu - black screen, none of those "smart tips" with sax2 didnt helped, had to boot for some strange reason in no-acpi mode
    2. I couldn't install with 4 hours of troubleshooting me Ati hd4770 card properly
    3. I couldn't install mp3 codecs for Rhytmbox, tried also Amarok, in the end I finally installed some gstreamer codecs, but still didnt work


    After I week being really pissed of I downloaded Ubuntu and kicked opensuse from my disk.

    1. Ubuntu had no problems at all with loading my hardware
    2. Ubuntu had no problems installing the ati drivers, with that nice tool (hardware drivers)
    3. I run Rhythmbox put my mp3 in the list, it asked me that I needed some codecs and voila mp3 were playing

    So in the end I had in 30 minutes installed a ready-to-use Linux system without any problems.

    From Look ubuntu 9.10 with new wave theme + notifier and some other tools to improve your desktop is much easier to find and install.


    Sorry Novel your 11.2 back-fired really hard


    Simply from user-friedly design, ubuntu is much better then Opensuse.

    In my opinion if Linux distros are aiming for desktop users, they must offer approx. the same flexibility, stability and simplicity as windows. to this is much closer ubuntu, sorry suse you're miles behind.

    I dont care why that magical tool from novel - sax2 was unable
    to configure my vga cars I care only for the end results. Still I wonder after installing ati drivers in opensuse got everytime after restart some anoying message with ICEauto cannot be read, ubuntu didnt had these problems.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    Kthnx...bai?

    Did you raise bug reports? Or is this just...?

    Sorry, remind me: what is this thread supposed to achieve?

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    Quote Originally Posted by spigy11 View Post
    Hi

    I got fed-up with Windows and wanted to install perm. on my disk some linux - fedora, debian, opensuse, ubuntu, you name it....
    Hi,
    1st of all, did you post any problem/issue here and asked for help?
    OR maybe you could think about windows again? better deal.

    And yeh, openSUSE is miles ahead of Ubuntu...no comparison here.
    It doesn't work for you doesn't mean will not work for all...does it?
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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    I dual boot Opensuse 11.2 and Ubuntu 9.10. Ubuntu comes nowhere near opensuse.
    It's quite a nice easy distro but you can't do much customisation in comparison with opensuse. You get what comes off the disk pretty much.
    And as for finding software - well ppa.launchpad is a nightmare to search if you want anything that canonical hasn't already chosen for you.
    Pete

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    1st of all seems to be well used here in this topic.

    Yes i agree with the writer of this topic (all is much more easy and works better in ubuntu)

    ..............edited to remove offensive material.......... with open suse but i most cases just reinstall the system or type
    Code:
    sax2 -r -m 0=vesa
    to be able to have an graphic solution at all.

    I wonder why ...................edited to remove offensive material.......................

    And then the
    Code:
    apt-get
    is taken away from the sytem instead ....................edited to remove offensive material...................... ???

    Why isnt 1 decent (working) programinstaller there at start here ubuntu is where gonna be miles before opensuse you just need to see that.

    And i really dont understand...................edited to remove offensive material.......................

    We do not ..................... edited to remove offensive material .....................
    Last edited by swerdna; 06-Dec-2009 at 04:43. Reason: edited to remove offensive material

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    spigy11 wrote:
    > Hi


    hi, you should use the system that you like best.

    moaning here about all your troubles without entering a single bug
    report makes you look like a troll, whether you are or not.

    give us a postal address and we will send you all your money back.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    Quote Originally Posted by palladium View Post
    spigy11 wrote:
    > Hi


    hi, you should use the system that you like best.

    moaning here about all your troubles without entering a single bug
    report makes you look like a troll, whether you are or not.

    give us a postal address and we will send you all your money back.

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    edited to remove offensive material
    Last edited by swerdna; 06-Dec-2009 at 04:39. Reason: edited to remove offensive material

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    Hi,
    Especially for a non power user, making the step from one Operating System to another is like opening yourself to a different world of experience. Many things are in common to what you ve already seen, others beg to differ.
    While I would very much like to think my grandma will be able to run on linux and why not, install it on her own, I tend to think that "going linux" means you are at least prepared to make some efforts to understand a little more about the inner workings of your OS, and willing to invest some time, some digging and research.
    Linux distributions have also many things in common but also some differences.

    Before installing, I think it is a good practice to test with a live-CD before hand...
    > ATI cards are known to be less compatible, because of the drivers and support provided by the vendor. (I bought an nvidia card for an older machine with ATI card to install Opensuse on, and dit not blame Opensuse for ATI considering the card a legacy product and not supporting it anymore)
    However, at least with catalyst drivers 9.11, the ATI card you mention should work well after proper configuration. (those drivers were recently published, after Opensuse 11.2 I think).
    > I also had to do a little search in order to make amarok play propriatary mp3 format (and itself not giving an error was not very helpful), as the Opensuse community one-click install for restricted formats (that I do appreciate they are left out of the initial system - they are propriatary after all) did not work for me. Through the reading of these forums, I was able to install a few more packages and it did the trick. Multimedia is mostly supported through Packman repository, that can be added very easily through Yast control center.
    > For the installation problem, I understand that it is very frustrating to not be able and even go through the complete installation of the system, also with linux, many resources are are available through internet connection with a system up and running (and here for Opensuse I think there are pleanty resources to address any issue or try to find the best possible solution).
    I wouldn't go so far as to ask a new user to file a bug report, but it is indeed strange not to have asked for assistance if this is what happened?
    I think with Opensuse 11.2, many details enhance the user experience, and are definitely in a good direction (this is partly due to KDE improvements as well as I use this DE).
    Its great if you are finally happy with Ubuntu, and its very good for a new linux users first steps. Indeed, Opensuse has still some more steps to do in the user friendliness area, but I think its also a because of a different attitude towards the user : it does assume that you are willing to give some effort from your side as well. (many users that work on Windows for example feel they find their way around just because they use it for a long time).
    When one becomes more experienced, I don't think he will tend to stick with Ubuntu though, their offering has its limits. Opensuse approach has less limits and more options. For me its also more fun to use...
    But in the end, its comes to personal taste and choice.

    I don't thing there is something terribly wrong with Opensuse offering as you seem to imply, but you indeed had a bad experience with it, at least 2 of the 3 points you mentionned are solvable wioth a little research and patience, for installation I cannot say...
    Its not a matter of doing magic to make it work...

    PS : Sorry for long post... :-)
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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

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    What do a Window$ user know about GNU/Linux???
    > In my opinion if Linux distros are aiming for desktop users, they must
    > offer approx. the same flexibility, stability and simplicity as windows.
    > to this is much closer ubuntu, sorry suse you're miles behind.


    I was forced to install ubuntu on my work PC's, and you are right,
    Ubuntu offer the same flexibility (is as flexible as Vista), stability
    (is as stable as win98) and simplicity (is as simple as win nt 4) as
    windows do, and I was able to take a root shell with a 6 line code on an
    ubuntu server, I'm not surprise that ubuntu users think is closer to M$
    window$ and I'm VERY HAPPY that SuSE systems are miles behind that


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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.2 vs Ubuntu 9.10 = Ubuntu wins

    There are always going to be a small proportion of people who have bad experiences with a particular version of a distro. I'm sure there are threads in Ubuntu forums about Karmic not working for them and threatening to go back to some other distro.

    If the user is not keen on solving the problem, and fair enough, some people just want it to work, there's not much you can do but consign the post to the rant bin.

    FYI, I'm running this on an openSUSE 11.1 box, but typing at a Crunchbang 9.04 (Ubuntu variant) thin client on an old laptop. So both distros work for me, and without much setup either. Recently I put 11.2 on three computers and it worked on all. Added codecs via one-click-install and had multimedia playback. Of course this is just one user's experience, but so is the OP's.

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