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    Quote Originally Posted by palladium View Post
    if "automatic configuration" is not available in openSUSE 10.x some
    folks say openSUSE is brain dead...then, if one doesn't turn off
    "automatic configuration" in openSUSE 11.2 some folks say it is brain
    dead..
    Where was the option to choose/decline "automatic configuration" - I presume that's the stuff that happens on first boot?

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    And the winner is:

    RubyTuesday with the suggestion to edit /etc/HOSTNAME.

    And also the people who suggested to use Yast-Network-Hostname...

    Yast effectively changed /etc/hosts, but did not change /etc/HOSTNAME, so the manual edit fixed it.

    Thanks also to everyone's tips about the root password and hostname during install.

    As a general comment, I have tried probably about 25 different linux distros, and installed at least a dozen, and presently have a quad-boot on my home computer (Mandriva, suse-default, chakra, sabayon) AND I am not a CLI guru, but editting files is A-ok and fun for me (when I get instructions from friendly forums like suse's). So, I have a lot of experience from a user's perspective of installers, and (because I am not a cli guru) the installer becomes very important for setting up my machine. I find the suse installer to be cumbersome, and (this could be my stupidity) I also find it was fairly easy to miss some critical points like computer name and root password.

    I'll try to go through the installer again to see if it was my stupidity, or if it is truly easy to miss some of the options.

    Anyway, thanks for all your help and suggestions!!

    D.

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    Default Re: Change Computer Name / Dedicated root Password

    Yast-->Network Services-->NetworkDevices
    Click on Hostname/DNS tab
    There are two boxed to fill in: Hostname and Domain Name. I have seen this last one called site name. The hostname box will have that odd linux-0vqi in it. The Domain will probably be blank.
    Change hostname to whatever you want to call your computer.
    Change Domain to whatever you call your home network.
    Check the box for "write to /etc/hosts"

    On my box (11.2 KDE 4.3.4) it is slightly different, ie:
    Code:
    Yast>Network Devices>Network Settings
    Select hostname/DNS tab...
    Continue as before.

    Tumbleweed/KDE/Ati Radeon R9 270/AMD FX-6300/8Gb DDR3

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    Default Re: Change Computer Name / Dedicated root Password

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyTuesday View Post
    Where was the option to choose/decline "automatic configuration" - I presume that's the stuff that happens on first boot?
    Near the beginning of the install, I think after the choice of desktop and partitioning. Certainly before the packages are installed. IIRC it's a checkbox that says Use automatic configuration.

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    > Where was the option to choose/decline "automatic configuration" - I
    > presume that's the stuff that happens on first boot?


    no, before then, during install, see:

    http://www.novell.com/documentation/...tallquick.html

    click on "next", then scroll down to paragraph 4 and see the check box
    "Use Automatic Configuration"...uncheck it for full control..

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    Default Re: Change Computer Name / Dedicated root Password

    I consider this a problem with the installer design. The machine name should be asked for on the same page as the user information or a page of its own. Hiding it in a long list with out proper naming is just not right. How is anyone to know that autoconfigure is going to generate a random name for the machine???

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    Default Re: Change Computer Name / Dedicated root Password

    On Wed December 9 2009 10:06 am, txtxcowboy wrote:

    >
    > Prexy;2083046 Wrote:
    >> To the OP:
    >>
    >> I like answers with clear steps, so if this seems too simplistic, don't
    >> take offense. It's just the way I think
    >>
    >>
    >> There may be 6 other ways to do this, but this way always works for me.
    >> I don't remember if a reboot is needed. Open a terminal and see if it
    >> changed the prompt to what you wanted. If not, reboot.

    >
    > I have done exactly this, however, the hostname at the terminal prompt
    > still states the old intial hostname. Very strange. I have rebooted
    > twice.
    >
    >

    txtxcowboy;

    What are the contents of /etc/HOSTNAME ? This should be your hostname. If
    YaST is really not changing this, you can edit this file directly with
    either:
    kdesu kwrite /etc/HOSTNAME
    or
    gnomesu gedit /etc/HOSTNAME

    The format is <host name>.<domain name>
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    I consider this a problem with the installer design. The machine name should be asked for on the same page as the user information or a page of its own. Hiding it in a long list with out proper naming is just not right. How is anyone to know that autoconfigure is going to generate a random name for the machine???
    <applause!>

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    Default Re: Change Computer Name / Dedicated root Password

    This is the old trick:

    su -c 'hostname YOURDESIREDHOSTNAMEHERE'

    To add:

    Years ago the fora where flooded with users asking the same questions over and over again: "What do I fill in where the installer asks me for a hostname? Couldn't there be some default proposition?". Now the devs are blamed for assigning a hostname.
    During install, I do it every time, it's possible to change a lot of things. You just have to overrule the default propositions. Takes some preparation, that's all.
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    Default Re: Change Computer Name / Dedicated root Password

    Either way you will get complaints. I suppose it depends on which group is larger, 1. the people who would be confused by a hostname and don't really care, or 2. the people who want to customise the hostname and don't know how to do the simple steps in YaST.

    Though I have some sympathy for the second group. I think that instead of lumping the hostname into the automatic configuration, this one could be one of the few settings presented for modification, like first user details. The box could contain the suggested name, and a caption could explain what its for. Those who don't care can just click through.

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