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  1. #1
    upscope NNTP User

    Default Problem logging into Router

    KDE 4.3.3 release 3
    Konqueror 4.3.3 release 3
    FireFox 3.5.5
    Opera 10.10
    Chromium 4.0.245.0

    I Have a Belkin 4 port router that uses a web interface to program it. Opera
    displays the page correctly. Konqueror, FireFox and Chromium do not display
    the page correctly and get JavaScript errors.

    See: Incorrect - http://www.imagebam.com/image/2ddae157725817 (Konqueror,
    FireFox and Chromium).

    Correct: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e6831a57726986 (Opera 10.10)
    also IE* from a WIN XP guest on VirtualBox also displays it correct.

    It appears FireFox is using Java 153.Shows under manage plugins. Not sure
    what the other browsers are using. I assume Sun 160.

    According to YaST Sun Java 1.6.0 is installed and update-alternatives shows
    no alternatives for Java. YaST also shows both Rhino and V8 Javascript
    engines. Is this a problem?

    Any help or guidance on how to check this would be appreciated.



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    Default Re: Problem logging into Router

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    It looks like the "broken" browsers are not showing all of the frames.
    Are you sure you have not somehow disabled frames? I doubt the router
    needs Java on the client side, though it could. All of the interfaces
    I've seen for routers have been purely HTML and not Flash/Java/etc.

    Good luck.





    upscope wrote:
    > KDE 4.3.3 release 3
    > Konqueror 4.3.3 release 3
    > FireFox 3.5.5
    > Opera 10.10
    > Chromium 4.0.245.0
    >
    > I Have a Belkin 4 port router that uses a web interface to program it. Opera
    > displays the page correctly. Konqueror, FireFox and Chromium do not display
    > the page correctly and get JavaScript errors.
    >
    > See: Incorrect - http://www.imagebam.com/image/2ddae157725817 (Konqueror,
    > FireFox and Chromium).
    >
    > Correct: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e6831a57726986 (Opera 10.10)
    > also IE* from a WIN XP guest on VirtualBox also displays it correct.
    >
    > It appears FireFox is using Java 153.Shows under manage plugins. Not sure
    > what the other browsers are using. I assume Sun 160.
    >
    > According to YaST Sun Java 1.6.0 is installed and update-alternatives shows
    > no alternatives for Java. YaST also shows both Rhino and V8 Javascript
    > engines. Is this a problem?
    >
    > Any help or guidance on how to check this would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >

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    Default Re: Problem logging into Router

    That's somewhat surprising, since these routers are designed to work with all common browsers. Do you have some kind of Javascript blocker or have you turned it off in some way? Have you checked if other Belkin owners have the same problem?

    BTW, Java and Javascript are different languages. You don't need Java to have Javascript. This is a common misunderstanding.

  4. #4
    upscope NNTP User

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    ab@novell.com wrote:

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    > It looks like the "broken" browsers are not showing all of the frames.
    > Are you sure you have not somehow disabled frames? I doubt the router
    > needs Java on the client side, though it could. All of the interfaces
    > I've seen for routers have been purely HTML and not Flash/Java/etc.
    >
    > Good luck.

    Thanks for the response. I don't think Java's needed either. Looking at
    source it does have javascript within the HTML. I have not disabled frames I
    know of. Especially since they are working on other web pages with no
    problem. Do you have any Idea where I would enable/disable them? Main want
    Konqueror to work.

    I'll check everything again.
    >
    > upscope wrote:
    >> KDE 4.3.3 release 3
    >> Konqueror 4.3.3 release 3
    >> FireFox 3.5.5
    >> Opera 10.10
    >> Chromium 4.0.245.0
    >>
    >> I Have a Belkin 4 port router that uses a web interface to program it.
    >> Opera displays the page correctly. Konqueror, FireFox and Chromium do not
    >> display the page correctly and get JavaScript errors.
    >>
    >> See: Incorrect - http://www.imagebam.com/image/2ddae157725817
    >> (Konqueror,
    >> FireFox and Chromium).
    >>
    >> Correct: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e6831a57726986 (Opera
    >> 10.10)
    >> also IE* from a WIN XP guest on VirtualBox also displays it correct.
    >>
    >> It appears FireFox is using Java 153.Shows under manage plugins. Not sure
    >> what the other browsers are using. I assume Sun 160.
    >>
    >> According to YaST Sun Java 1.6.0 is installed and update-alternatives
    >> shows no alternatives for Java. YaST also shows both Rhino and V8
    >> Javascript engines. Is this a problem?
    >>
    >> Any help or guidance on how to check this would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

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  5. #5

    Default Re: Problem logging into Router

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    Java != or related to JavaScript.

    Good luck.






    upscope wrote:
    > ab@novell.com wrote:
    >
    > It looks like the "broken" browsers are not showing all of the frames.
    > Are you sure you have not somehow disabled frames? I doubt the router
    > needs Java on the client side, though it could. All of the interfaces
    > I've seen for routers have been purely HTML and not Flash/Java/etc.
    >
    > Good luck.
    >> Thanks for the response. I don't think Java's needed either. Looking at
    >> source it does have javascript within the HTML. I have not disabled frames I
    >> know of. Especially since they are working on other web pages with no
    >> problem. Do you have any Idea where I would enable/disable them? Main want
    >> Konqueror to work.

    >
    >> I'll check everything again.

    > upscope wrote:
    >>>> KDE 4.3.3 release 3
    >>>> Konqueror 4.3.3 release 3
    >>>> FireFox 3.5.5
    >>>> Opera 10.10
    >>>> Chromium 4.0.245.0
    >>>>
    >>>> I Have a Belkin 4 port router that uses a web interface to program it.
    >>>> Opera displays the page correctly. Konqueror, FireFox and Chromium do not
    >>>> display the page correctly and get JavaScript errors.
    >>>>
    >>>> See: Incorrect - http://www.imagebam.com/image/2ddae157725817
    >>>> (Konqueror,
    >>>> FireFox and Chromium).
    >>>>
    >>>> Correct: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e6831a57726986 (Opera
    >>>> 10.10)
    >>>> also IE* from a WIN XP guest on VirtualBox also displays it correct.
    >>>>
    >>>> It appears FireFox is using Java 153.Shows under manage plugins. Not sure
    >>>> what the other browsers are using. I assume Sun 160.
    >>>>
    >>>> According to YaST Sun Java 1.6.0 is installed and update-alternatives
    >>>> shows no alternatives for Java. YaST also shows both Rhino and V8
    >>>> Javascript engines. Is this a problem?
    >>>>
    >>>> Any help or guidance on how to check this would be appreciated.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>

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    upscope NNTP User

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    ab@novell.com wrote:

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    > Java != or related to JavaScript.
    >
    > Good luck.


    I don't think Java's needed either. Looking at source it does have
    javascript within the HTML.

    I have not disabled frames I know of. Especially since they are
    working on other web pages with no problem. Do you have any Idea
    where I would enable/disable them? I mainly want to use Konqueror.
    In looking at Konqueror settings Javascript is enabled globally.
    Error reporting and debugger are now enabled here are the three
    errors seen by Konqueror. Chromium and FireFox wording is a little
    different but appears to be the same errors.

    Errors
    ---------

    Konqueror: Error: illegal character
    Source File: http://192.168.2.1/showmenu.js
    Line: 576, Column: 1
    Source Code:
    }

    Error: showHead is not defined
    Source File: http://192.168.2.1/
    Line: 52

    Error: showTail is not defined
    Source File: http://192.168.2.1/
    Line: 336

    I know these are script errors by Belkin but they give the old excuse
    "We do not Support "Linux". It should not matter that my OS is Linux,
    HTML code should be HTML code. I know IE does not follow the standards
    so that may be the reason it works in IE. Is it possible Konqueror and
    FireFox use a different default !DocType for HTML than opera does,
    since Opera works and there is NO default [<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
    "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">] at the
    beginning of the Belkin script.

    Script Beginning
    ----------------
    <html>
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
    charset=iso-8859-1">
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css">
    <script language="Javascript" src="language.js"></script>
    <script>assign_var();</script>
    <script language="JavaScript" src="showmenu.js"></script>
    <script>

    I did try setting a custom policy for javascript in the router
    setting using its IP address of the router as the host or domain
    name, accept globally. Restarted system, did not help.

    >> upscope wrote:
    >> ab@novell.com wrote:


    >> It looks like the "broken" browsers are not showing all of the

    frames.
    >> Are you sure you have not somehow disabled frames? I doubt the

    router needs Java on the client side, though it could. All of the
    interfaces I've seen for routers have been purely HTML and not
    Flash/Java/etc.
    >>
    >> Good luck.


    Can you recommend a good router that I could replace the Belkin with?
    I run on a Fiber Optics network but the last ten feet from the box
    outside to my system is type 5 cable.

    Thanks again.

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    Default Re: Problem logging into Router

    I am not a hardware person, so you're way ahead of me if you know the difference between fiber optics and your "last ten feet", but I've used LinkSys routers without problems for years.
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  8. #8
    upscope NNTP User

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    twelveeighty wrote:

    >
    > I am not a hardware person, so you're way ahead of me if you know
    > the difference between fiber optics and your "last ten feet", but
    > I've used LinkSys routers without problems for years.
    >

    Thanks! I am going out later and see if local stores have any LinkSys
    routers. we don't have many stores in the town I live in. If not its
    70 miles one way to a town with more stores.

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    Default Re: Problem logging into Router

    You just made me very curious - where do you live? I can buy Linksys routers practically at gas stations here. But then again, I live in the part of the world where I have to drive 70 miles to find a restaurant with healhty food.
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  10. #10
    upscope NNTP User

    Default Re: Problem logging into Router

    twelveeighty wrote:

    >
    > You just made me very curious - where do you live? I can buy Linksys
    > routers practically at gas stations here. But then again, I live in
    > the part of the world where I have to drive 70 miles to find a
    > restaurant with healhty food.
    >

    That's probably true hear. Also if you want any clothes other than
    from WalMart. Live in Moses Lake Washington

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