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    I am looking for a parental control for my home computers. I want something simple and do not want to go through the elaborate setup of Dans Guardian + Squid. I am currently using WOT with Fox Filter on Firefox ; but Fox Filter has it's limitations for the free version.
    Recently i found that mobicip.com supports the linux platform for their parental controls but found from their support team that they only support Ubuntu as of now and do not have plans for OpenSuse support. They are pretty much in lines of K9 or Norton family. Is there anything similar for Opensuse that i can get ?

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    I've heard of some using OpenDNS (opendns.com) for things like this.

    Keep in mind that if you have physical access to a machine whose only
    restrictions to the Internet are located on that machine (and not
    something between that machine and the Internet) it can be circumvented in
    some way. For young children this probably isn't a problem but don't
    expect it to be perfect protection.

    Good luck.





    ddas4 wrote:
    > I am looking for a parental control for my home computers. I want
    > something simple and do not want to go through the elaborate setup of
    > Dans Guardian + Squid. I am currently using WOT with Fox Filter on
    > Firefox ; but Fox Filter has it's limitations for the free version.
    > Recently i found that mobicip.com supports the linux platform for their
    > parental controls but found from their support team that they only
    > support Ubuntu as of now and do not have plans for OpenSuse support.
    > They are pretty much in lines of K9 or Norton family. Is there anything
    > similar for Opensuse that i can get ?
    >
    >

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    Default Re: Parental control software needed ..

    Quote Originally Posted by ddas4
    I am looking for a parental control for my home computers. I want
    something simple and do not want to go through the elaborate setup of
    Dans Guardian + Squid. I am currently using WOT with Fox Filter on
    Firefox ; but Fox Filter has it's limitations for the free version.
    Recently i found that mobicip.com supports the linux platform for their
    parental controls but found from their support team that they only
    support Ubuntu as of now and do not have plans for OpenSuse support.
    They are pretty much in lines of K9 or Norton family. Is there anything
    similar for Opensuse that i can get ?
    Hi
    What about using opendns's services?
    http://www.opendns.com/start/
    or
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/Parental_controls

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    Dansguardian is what you want. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All
    To get the openSUSE rpm you need this repository: Index of /repositories/server:/proxy/openSUSE_11.1 or Index of /repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.1

    Please read the dansguardian howto. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All

    You will need squid, which is a proxy, to make this work.

    There are also Firefox plugins https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=paren

    Now keep in mind, that once you do this, you will want to disable the menu's so the users can not disable the content filtering.

    Here is a rough draft for openSUSE 11.1 Setting up Squid NTLM DansGuardian Sarg - openSUSE

    I have set this up a few times. Let me know if you get stuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan_R View Post
    Dansguardian is what you want. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All
    To get the openSUSE rpm you need this repository: Index of /repositories/server:/proxy/openSUSE_11.1 or Index of /repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.1

    Please read the dansguardian howto. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All

    You will need squid, which is a proxy, to make this work.

    There are also Firefox plugins https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=paren

    Now keep in mind, that once you do this, you will want to disable the menu's so the users can not disable the content filtering.

    Here is a rough draft for openSUSE 11.1 Setting up Squid NTLM DansGuardian Sarg - openSUSE

    I have set this up a few times. Let me know if you get stuck.
    You may also want to add this Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14365
    And you may want to read this: Firefox Lockdown Information - pcc-services.com
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    What about Glubble for Firefox?

    At my house, I have an old (PIII 700Mhz) machine with 2 NICs running IPCop Linux and DansGuardian Add On. It is set right off of the modem (DSL, but I think it handles dial-up as well) so ALL computers on the network is filtered.

    I thought this would be better because if somebody uses a LiveCD/LiveUSB then they can easily bypass the local settings regardless of what OS it is running. Not to mention, if somebody brings in their iPod, iPhone or Laptop and connect wirelessly then they too will be filtered as all internet activity goes through this IPCop box.

    Plus there is logging, though you have to do a little extra to have it keep track of who is making what request, but it will log the request and such.

    It is very quick to set up (like 20 minutes full installation including answering questions and such) and just keeps running and running.

    I would love to find a way to run it on a much smaller, more energy efficient system but otherwise there are no complaints. Even my 700MHz system is a little bit of overkill, but it is what I have available. Would rather the low-power-consumption of an Atom chip system (Nettop), but if 700MHz is too much, the 1.6 GHz is WAY overkill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonbite View Post
    What about Glubble for Firefox?

    At my house, I have an old (PIII 700Mhz) machine with 2 NICs running IPCop Linux and DansGuardian Add On. It is set right off of the modem (DSL, but I think it handles dial-up as well) so ALL computers on the network is filtered.

    I thought this would be better because if somebody uses a LiveCD/LiveUSB then they can easily bypass the local settings regardless of what OS it is running. Not to mention, if somebody brings in their iPod, iPhone or Laptop and connect wirelessly then they too will be filtered as all internet activity goes through this IPCop box.

    Plus there is logging, though you have to do a little extra to have it keep track of who is making what request, but it will log the request and such.

    It is very quick to set up (like 20 minutes full installation including answering questions and such) and just keeps running and running.

    I would love to find a way to run it on a much smaller, more energy efficient system but otherwise there are no complaints. Even my 700MHz system is a little bit of overkill, but it is what I have available. Would rather the low-power-consumption of an Atom chip system (Nettop), but if 700MHz is too much, the 1.6 GHz is WAY overkill.

    I have tried Glubble before. I personally didn't like it. I found it annoying and didn't work as well as dansguardian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan_R View Post
    I have tried Glubble before. I personally didn't like it. I found it annoying and didn't work as well as dansguardian.
    Hasn't worked for me either (even on Windows), but I thought I would toss it out there anyway.
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    How about that oldfashioned way, have a talk with your kids on the issue? If you believe in educating kids by restricting them the way you're thinking of you're gonna be disapointed, they will most certainly always be way ahead of you on those matters, and they'll find new ways to access what you forbid them to access. Don't try to use technology for this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hank_se View Post
    How about that oldfashioned way, have a talk with your kids on the issue? If you believe in educating kids by restricting them the way you're thinking of you're gonna be disapointed, they will most certainly always be way ahead of you on those matters, and they'll find new ways to access what you forbid them to access. Don't try to use technology for this!
    Yes, technology isn't the answer. Parental controls is not the only answer to it, but it is a tool that HELPS.

    As you said, "they will most certainly always be way ahead of you .." which means these controls may help to keep them from getting TOO far ahead before being noticed/detected/caught and give the parent a chance to talk with them about WHY you don't want them to go or view something. It's a little harder when they have images of giggling body parts in their head!

    Would it be better to not know when they are going somewhere or doing something?

    My son (5 or 6 at the time) and my youngest daughter (3-4) were sitting in front of the computer in the living room. I was cleaning up around the house (no vacuum, just straightening things). I heard my son ask his little sister "Want to see what is on fairies.com?"

    For him it was an innocent question and idea. He was doing it for his sister. And while I don't know what fairies.com is like, I would rather not have the "WhiteHouse.com" situation[1] crop up, and so I quickly scooted over to where they were. This time I didn't have to worry about it, because his spelling wasn't so good, and they immediately returned to where they were without me having to say something.

    It is helpful, since they will explore things on their own, to know there is that one layer of protection there to help me.



    [1] Whitehouse.gov is the Government building's website, while WhiteHouse.com is, or at least was, a porn site.
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