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  1. #1
    sithlordzuk NNTP User

    Post Help for a Newbie installing apps

    I have been wanting to take a close look at a linux system for several years now due to my ever increasing frustration with Microsoft. The final straw was purchasing a new PC with Vista installed and then having to upgrade to Windows 7 due to the completely appalling OS that was Vista.

    I have had the perfect opportunity to try Linux now and so far so good. I am very impressed with the look and feel of it.

    Basically I have a company provided laptop and our IT are very funny about us using it for any sort of personal use, they are completely paranoid about network security etc and having met some other laptop users in the company I am not at all surprised, some of them are still on 1 finger typing.

    To overcome this problem as I spend a fair bit of time in hotels and would like to mainly play games on the laptop I purchased an external eSATA caddy and have installed Open SUSE ver 11 on it. After spending several hours looking through forums, google searches etc I cannot work out how to install software to the hard drive. Evertime that the programs auto.exe file runs I get a message stating "Cannot find autorun program" when it is clearly in the directory. I have tried this with a number of programs now and I get the same response.

    Ideally I want to install the program for my 3G dongle, Football Manager and a couple of other bits.

    Any help that can be provided would be extremely appreciated. I wouldn't normally ask and would find the answer myself but after spending several hours doing internet searches I feel like I'm hitting my head against a brick wall.

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    Default Re: Help for a Newbie installing apps

    AFAICS you have not, you copied the contents of the downloaded DVD/Live CD. Please read the stickies. Looks like you're trying to do things from outside openSUSE.
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    David Gersic NNTP User

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    On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:06:02 +0000, sithlordzuk wrote:

    > I have been wanting to take a close look at a linux system for several
    > years now due to my ever increasing frustration with Microsoft.


    So, just to get a feel for your level of expertise here, you've never
    used a Linux or other unix-like system before? Have you used any other
    operating systems before that weren't some flavour of Windows?


    > I have had the perfect opportunity to try Linux now and so far so good.
    > I am very impressed with the look and feel of it.


    Can you describe exactly what you've done so far here?


    > To overcome this problem as I spend a fair bit of time in hotels and
    > would like to mainly play games on the laptop I purchased an external
    > eSATA caddy and have installed Open SUSE ver 11 on it.


    So at some point you booted from an install CD, formatted this external
    disk, and installed the operating system to it. Yes? And you can boot the
    Linux operating system from this external disk. Yes?


    > After spending
    > several hours looking through forums, google searches etc I cannot work
    > out how to install software to the hard drive.


    There are many ways to install applications on a Linux system. The "SuSE
    way" to do it is via something they call "YaST". Depending on exactly how
    and what you installed, you may have to hunt around for it, but it should
    be available on the menu somewhere.

    If your installed system is using the Gnome desktop, from the "Computer"
    icon in the bottom left corner, click on it, then you can pick "YaST" off
    the menu directly.

    Once you're in YaST, there are a bunch of options presented. Find the one
    labled "Software Management" and click on it. It'll take a few seconds of
    initialization, but eventually you'll be presented with a window with
    three big buttons along the top. They are "Available", "Upgrades", and
    "Installed".

    Ignore "Upgrades" for right now. If you click on the "Installed" button,
    you will get a list of all of the applications packages that are
    installed on your system right now. If you click on the "Available"
    button, you'll get a list of all of the applications packages that are
    currently available that are not yet installed on your system. You can
    read the names and descriptions at your leisure to find interesting
    sounding ones, or you can you use the "Search" box (below "Installed"
    button) to search for things you might want to install and use.

    Find one that sounds interesting and click on it. Then click the
    "Install" button on the lower right. YaST will add it to its list of
    things to install, and will also add any other packages that the one you
    selected is dependent on. So if you pick, for example, a graphics editor,
    you may find that YaST needs to install a couple of graphics libraries
    and a printer calibration utility, because the graphics editor depends on
    having these available and they are not yet.

    Once you've picked what you want, click the "Apply" button, and YaST will
    install what you've asked it to. If, later, you decide that you don't
    want something you installed, use YaST again. Click on the application
    you want to get rid of, and click on the "Uninstall" button.


    > Evertime that the
    > programs auto.exe file runs I get a message stating "Cannot find autorun
    > program" when it is clearly in the directory. I have tried this with a
    > number of programs now and I get the same response.


    Ok, here's where I think you may be missing something. "auto.exe" is most
    likely a Windows program. If you're not running Windows, because you're
    running Linux, then you can't run Windows programs.


    > Ideally I want to install the program for my 3G dongle, Football Manager
    > and a couple of other bits.


    Your 3G dongle may or may not be supported already. Or it may not be
    supported at all. It depends a lot on a few factors, not the least of
    which is how well the manufacturer supports Linux or open source
    software. If they're helpful, then there's likely to be support for it.
    If they're hostile, it's likely that your 3G dongle is only going to be
    useful as a paperweight.

    I don't know what "Football Manager" is, but if it's Windows software,
    you won't be able to install or run it on a non-Windows operating system,
    just like you can't run iPhone applications on Windows. You may have to
    find a replacement for it, or live without it.


    > Any help that can be provided would be extremely appreciated. I wouldn't
    > normally ask and would find the answer myself but after spending several
    > hours doing internet searches I feel like I'm hitting my head against a
    > brick wall.


    I hope this helps. I'm not sure if it will, as it's hard to tell what
    your level of experience and knowledge of computers is. I hope that I
    haven't overshot (or undershot) the mark.


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  4. #4
    sithlordzuk NNTP User

    Default Re: Help for a Newbie installing apps

    David,

    Many thanks for you reply. To answer your questions and ellaborate a little more.

    > I have been wanting to take a close look at a linux system for several
    > years now due to my ever increasing frustration with Microsoft.

    So, just to get a feel for your level of expertise here, you've never
    used a Linux or other unix-like system before? Have you used any other
    operating systems before that weren't some flavour of Windows?

    >I'm afraid I have been a slave to Bill Gates for most of my life now and this is the first time I have really taken a look at linux. As for my overall experience PC knowledge I have worked with PC's for numerous years now and I currently work in a basic field based support role, installing software for customers which requires a basic knowledge of networking.
    > I have had the perfect opportunity to try Linux now and so far so good.
    > I am very impressed with the look and feel of it.

    Can you describe exactly what you've done so far here?

    >Not a massive amount. I installed the software to an external harddrive via the live installation yesterday and since then I have looked at some of the basic features of the software. It does look relatively straight forward and user friendly for the basic functions which is exactly what I need. Bear in mind as I have stated I am looking to use this as a second operating system when away from home and I want to use my company laptop for personal use away from our company VPN.

    > Evertime that the
    > programs auto.exe file runs I get a message stating "Cannot find autorun
    > program" when it is clearly in the directory. I have tried this with a
    > number of programs now and I get the same response.

    Ok, here's where I think you may be missing something. "auto.exe" is most
    likely a Windows program. If you're not running Windows, because you're
    running Linux, then you can't run Windows programs.


    > Ideally I want to install the program for my 3G dongle, Football Manager
    > and a couple of other bits.

    Your 3G dongle may or may not be supported already. Or it may not be
    supported at all. It depends a lot on a few factors, not the least of
    which is how well the manufacturer supports Linux or open source
    software. If they're helpful, then there's likely to be support for it.
    If they're hostile, it's likely that your 3G dongle is only going to be
    useful as a paperweight.

    I don't know what "Football Manager" is, but if it's Windows software,
    you won't be able to install or run it on a non-Windows operating system,
    just like you can't run iPhone applications on Windows. You may have to
    find a replacement for it, or live without it.

    >You are right I have been trying to install windows software (rookie mistake). I have been reading about wine and xwine. Would these allow me to run windows applications like an emulator? Or are there windows emulators available for linux? Football Manager is a game and there doesn't seem to be any linux support. I will check with my 3G manufacturer.

    Once again many thanks for your help.

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    Crossover is your man! It is not free, but it does allow you to use many windows apps, even games, it is very easy to install and configure, & there is some support included in the $39.00 price.., available for free 30 day trial, give it a go...

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    Is this the same Footbal Manager program that you are using?
    WineHQ - Football Manager 2008 8.0

    If so, you may be able to get it to work in Wine. The entires in Wine's database above are outdated but it looks like it ran at some point in the past, so it may very well work without any trouble now.

    To use Wine, open up the YaST Software Manager, search for wine-snapshot, and install it. After it is installed, run the Windows executable setup file and see if it installs and runs. If you can't get it to work, you might want to check with Wine's support forums.

    The third-party programs like Crossover may have better support, so if you can't get it to work in Wine, you might want to look there.
    My personal philosophy:
    The only way you won't find something is if you stop looking.

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    upscope NNTP User

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    sithlordzuk wrote:

    >
    > David,
    >
    > Many thanks for you reply. To answer your questions and ellaborate a
    > little more.
    >
    >> I have been wanting to take a close look at a linux system for

    > several
    >> years now due to my ever increasing frustration with Microsoft.

    >
    > So, just to get a feel for your level of expertise here, you've never
    > used a Linux or other unix-like system before? Have you used any other
    > operating systems before that weren't some flavour of Windows?
    >
    >>I'm afraid I have been a slave to Bill Gates for most of my life now

    > and this is the first time I have really taken a look at linux. As for
    > my overall experience PC knowledge I have worked with PC's for numerous
    > years now and I currently work in a basic field based support role,
    > installing software for customers which requires a basic knowledge of
    > networking.
    >> I have had the perfect opportunity to try Linux now and so far so

    > good.
    >> I am very impressed with the look and feel of it.

    >
    > Can you describe exactly what you've done so far here?
    >
    >>Not a massive amount. I installed the software to an external

    > harddrive via the live installation yesterday and since then I have
    > looked at some of the basic features of the software. It does look
    > relatively straight forward and user friendly for the basic functions
    > which is exactly what I need. Bear in mind as I have stated I am looking
    > to use this as a second operating system when away from home and I want
    > to use my company laptop for personal use away from our company VPN.
    >
    >> Evertime that the
    >> programs auto.exe file runs I get a message stating "Cannot find

    > autorun
    >> program" when it is clearly in the directory. I have tried this with

    > a
    >> number of programs now and I get the same response.

    >
    > Ok, here's where I think you may be missing something. "auto.exe" is
    > most
    > likely a Windows program. If you're not running Windows, because
    > you're
    > running Linux, then you can't run Windows programs.
    >
    >
    >> Ideally I want to install the program for my 3G dongle, Football

    > Manager
    >> and a couple of other bits.

    >
    > Your 3G dongle may or may not be supported already. Or it may not be
    > supported at all. It depends a lot on a few factors, not the least of
    > which is how well the manufacturer supports Linux or open source
    > software. If they're helpful, then there's likely to be support for
    > it.
    > If they're hostile, it's likely that your 3G dongle is only going to
    > be
    > useful as a paperweight.
    >
    > I don't know what "Football Manager" is, but if it's Windows software,
    > you won't be able to install or run it on a non-Windows operating
    > system,
    > just like you can't run iPhone applications on Windows. You may have
    > to
    > find a replacement for it, or live without it.
    >
    >>You are right I have been trying to install windows software (rookie

    > mistake). I have been reading about wine and xwine. Would these allow me
    > to run windows applications like an emulator? Or are there windows
    > emulators available for linux? Football Manager is a game and there
    > doesn't seem to be any linux support. I will check with my 3G
    > manufacturer.
    >
    > Once again many thanks for your help.
    >

    Have you looked at VirtualBox (its free) from Sun. I have XP running as a
    guest VM on it and run windows programs on it. I will admit have have not
    tried a game, but its the only way I can run my Tax software (TurboTax) on
    Linux.

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  8. #8
    David Gersic NNTP User

    Default Re: Help for a Newbie installing apps

    On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:36:02 +0000, sithlordzuk wrote:

    > I'm afraid I have been a slave to Bill Gates for most of my life now
    > and this is the first time I have really taken a look at linux.


    Ok, fair enough. We all have to start somewhere.


    > You are right I have been trying to install windows software (rookie
    > mistake). I have been reading about wine and xwine. Would these allow me
    > to run windows applications like an emulator?


    There are several options for running Windows applications under some
    kind of emulator. Wine is one of them. I haven't looked at Wine in a
    while, as I've been using VMWare here. You could also look at Xen, or
    KVM, and somebody else has already mentioned VirtualBox.



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