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    Question Kmail empty after upgrade

    Hi

    In opensuse 11.1 and kde 4 i upgraded using # zypper ref && zypper up but now my kmail is completely empty

    ( this is KMail
    Version 1.12.2
    Using KDE 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 183")

    it looks like everything is still in /home/fabrice/.kde4/share/apps/kmail (accounts, mail...) but how come kmail did not took everything in charge by himself

    How do i have my settings back ?


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    Default Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    I suspect you may have been caught by the changeover in naming kde folders. In 11.1 kde3.5 folders were labelled kde and kde4.1 folders kde4; that naming convention has been swapped round for 11.2 so that kde3.5 folders are now kde3 and kde4.n folders are kde.

    With KDE4.3 being so recent, I suspect it assumes the 11.2 naming convention. Check your hidden files carefully for the version of KDE to which they relate and copy over the relevant files to the appropriate folder.

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    Default Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by john_hudson View Post
    I suspect you may have been caught by the changeover in naming kde folders. In 11.1 kde3.5 folders were labelled kde and kde4.1 folders kde4; that naming convention has been swapped round for 11.2 so that kde3.5 folders are now kde3 and kde4.n folders are kde.

    With KDE4.3 being so recent, I suspect it assumes the 11.2 naming convention. Check your hidden files carefully for the version of KDE to which they relate and copy over the relevant files to the appropriate folder.
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    Default Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    When i copy kmail directory from /home/fabrice/.kde4/share/apps to
    /home/fabrice/.kde/share/apps ... after reboot kmail is still empty

    when i try to import from within kmail using kmail directories structure i have to go to each directory , for example :

    /home/fabrice/Documents/kmail_old/mail/inbox/cur
    but there is also new and tmp direcotries there, plus many others at /home/fabrice/Documents/kmail_old/mail

    which one is supposed to be used ?

    I'd also need the accounts and settings (filters).

    edit : also all my system is now in english instead of french as it used to be
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    Default Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    hi

    import: kmail/mail/.inbox.directory

    dont forget the dot in .inbox.directory

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    Smile Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    Hi,
    i changed my locale to the right one, and after a reboot i saw four mails with accounts and settings back (light at the end of the tunnel ).
    i then put back the kmail dir in order (rename from kmail_old to kmail) , stopped kmail and turned it on and then it was ok
    So it looks like /home/fabrice/.kde4/share/apps/kmail was ok but something messed it up during the upgrade.
    Thanks
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    Default Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:46:01 GMT, manchette fr
    <manchette_fr@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    >When i copy kmail directory from /home/fabrice/.kde4/share/apps to
    >/home/fabrice/.kde/share/apps ... after reboot kmail is still empty
    >
    >when i try to import from within kmail using kmail directories
    >structure i have to go to each directory , for example :
    >
    >/home/fabrice/Documents/kmail_old/mail/inbox/cur
    >but there is also new and tmp direcotries there, plus many others at
    >/home/fabrice/Documents/kmail_old/mail
    >
    >which one is supposed to be used ?
    >
    >I'd also need the accounts and settings (filters).
    >
    >edit : also all my system is now in english instead of french as it
    >used to be


    With problems like this it becomes clear the decision to switch the
    naming convention was cow stupid. KDE4 was not ready for prime time
    at 4.1.3 or 4.2.X and was still beta at 4.3.X. Yes, it has been a
    hell of task, and i appreciate getting it to where it is. I will
    probably switch when Suse 11.3 comes out. Then again, though Linux is
    my OS of choice and Suse my preferred flavor, i still can and do use
    others. I still say the naming convention change was horribly
    premature. Maybe should not have been done until 11.3, a future
    release.

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    Question Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    Well, it was a difficult problem to solve, they tried their best and it has some side effects But the newcomer could be disapointed indeed.
    Things will go better now, untill Kde 5 ...

    Why is it we so often forget our previous mistakes ?
    Are they not traced and included in next versions ?
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    Default Re: Kmail empty after upgrade

    manchette fr wrote:

    >
    > When i copy kmail directory from /home/fabrice/.kde4/share/apps to
    > /home/fabrice/.kde/share/apps ... after reboot kmail is still empty
    >
    > when i try to import from within kmail using kmail directories
    > structure i have to go to each directory , for example :
    >
    > /home/fabrice/Documents/kmail_old/mail/inbox/cur
    > but there is also new and tmp direcotries there, plus many others at
    > /home/fabrice/Documents/kmail_old/mail
    >
    > which one is supposed to be used ?
    >
    > I'd also need the accounts and settings (filters).
    >
    > edit : also all my system is now in english instead of french as it
    > used to be
    >
    >

    In addition to copying the kmail folder(~/.kde or .kde4/share/apps)in ~/.kde
    or ~/.kde4 (hidden folders) did you also copy the following from ~/.kde or
    ..kde4/share/config (kmail.eventsrc, kmail.notifyrc, kmailsnippetrc and
    kmail.rc) from config?

    Hope this helps
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