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    Default Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    Hi, so far I like my experience with kde 4, however I still got some issues I would like to see resolved before switching from gnome to kde:


    1. KDE always had that annoying bouncing icon next to the mouse pointer when an application loads. I figured out how to disable that bouncing feedback. But the problem is that the normal busy indicator of the mouse is never shown (hourglass like). When an app loads, the pointer is always the same arrow-icon. Except when it floats over Yast, probably because that is in root-mode. How can I get the busy icon for normal user as well?
    2. KMenu has a rather small start-button compared to gnome and windows. I would like a wider icon or the ability to put text next to the button. I can select a custom icon by right clicking on KMenu, but a wider icon is automatically shrunk to the standard size... How fix this?
    3. Folderview applet: I like it but it has one very annoying feature. If you hover the mouse over a folder it opens a smaller dialog with its subfolders. Even when there are no subfolders!! How can I completely disable this preview as I don't need it.
    4. Changing the background of the main panel doesn't seem to be very simple. In system settings > advanded > desktop theme details you can choose another background. However if I select a png file (from kde-look) it does not apply this background, instead it applies another background from a random plasma theme. What am I doing wrong? The same background works in gnome... And if I try to change any setting from the Air or Air Opensuse theme, they don't apply at all... I really like Air except for the panel background.


    I'm using KDE 4.3

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    [*] KDE always had that annoying bouncing icon next to the mouse pointer when an application loads. I figured out how to disable that bouncing feedback. But the problem is that the normal busy indicator of the mouse is never shown (hourglass like). When an app loads, the pointer is always the same arrow-icon. Except when it floats over Yast, probably because that is in root-mode. How can I get the busy icon for normal user as well?
    Personal settings > Desktop > Launch feedback

    [*] Changing the background of the main panel doesn't seem to be very simple. In system settings > advanded > desktop theme details you can choose another background. However if I select a png file (from kde-look) it does not apply this background, instead it applies another background from a random plasma theme. What am I doing wrong? The same background works in gnome... And if I try to change any setting from the Air or Air Opensuse theme, they don't apply at all... I really like Air except for the panel background.
    Rightclick on desktop > Desktop settings

    Don't know the answer to the others. Suspect it cannot be done.
    Günter

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    Quote Originally Posted by suskewiet View Post
    Hi, so far I like my experience with kde 4, however I still got some issues I would like to see resolved before switching from gnome to kde:


    1. Changing the background of the main panel doesn't seem to be very simple. In system settings > advanded > desktop theme details you can choose another background. However if I select a png file (from kde-look) it does not apply this background, instead it applies another background from a random plasma theme. What am I doing wrong? The same background works in gnome... And if I try to change any setting from the Air or Air Opensuse theme, they don't apply at all... I really like Air except for the panel background.

    I'm using KDE 4.3
    Hi,

    When you select a different background for the panel, the new theme is saved as custom. You must then change your theme to custom via right clicking on the desktop and choosing Desktop Settings. Then change Desktop Theme to Custom.

    Take Care,

    Ian
    Laptop: Dell Inspiron E1505 | OpenSUSE 12.1/Windows Vista | KDE | Intel CPU T2050 1.6 GHz | Intel 945GM | 3.2GB RAM
    Box: OpenSUSE 12.1/Windows 7 | KDE | Intel Core 2 Quad 8300 2.5GHz/core | nVidia Geforce 9500GT 1GB| 4 GB RAM

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    Quote Originally Posted by suskewiet View Post
    Hi, so far I like my experience with kde 4, however I still got some issues I would like to see resolved before switching from gnome to kde:


    1. KDE always had that annoying bouncing icon next to the mouse pointer when an application loads. I figured out how to disable that bouncing feedback. But the problem is that the normal busy indicator of the mouse is never shown (hourglass like). When an app loads, the pointer is always the same arrow-icon. Except when it floats over Yast, probably because that is in root-mode. How can I get the busy icon for normal user as well?
    2. KMenu has a rather small start-button compared to gnome and windows. I would like a wider icon or the ability to put text next to the button. I can select a custom icon by right clicking on KMenu, but a wider icon is automatically shrunk to the standard size... How fix this?
    3. Folderview applet: I like it but it has one very annoying feature. If you hover the mouse over a folder it opens a smaller dialog with its subfolders. Even when there are no subfolders!! How can I completely disable this preview as I don't need it.
    4. Changing the background of the main panel doesn't seem to be very simple. In system settings > advanded > desktop theme details you can choose another background. However if I select a png file (from kde-look) it does not apply this background, instead it applies another background from a random plasma theme. What am I doing wrong? The same background works in gnome... And if I try to change any setting from the Air or Air Opensuse theme, they don't apply at all... I really like Air except for the panel background.


    I'm using KDE 4.3
    1. Really? Maybe it's diff. in KDE 4.3 but in 4.1.3, I get an arrow with two silver balls rotating in a circle under the arrow when it's "thinking" or loading.

    2. My icon's pretty big, but I think it's dependent upon the size of the taskbar.

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    > - KDE always had that annoying bouncing icon next to the mouse
    > pointer when an application loads. I figured out how to disable that
    > bouncing feedback. But the problem is that the normal busy indicator
    > of the mouse is never shown (hourglass like). When an app loads, the
    > pointer is always the same arrow-icon.


    hmmm...you are (it seems to me) using old fashioned DOS/Windows-Think,
    that is "this machine can do exactly one thing at a time...and, you
    (the user) can WAIT".. :-)

    the system is _always_ busy doing something...loading an app is no
    different than loading a crontab to run updatedb in background... :-)

    but, with multi-tasking the user doesn't have to wait for the
    hourglass to go away.. :-)

    just click to load and go on...i mean, if you click to start
    OpenOffice Writer do you need to see the arrow become a Redmond
    hourglass to know that Writer has not yet appeared? in those few
    seconds it take to load, do something else.. :-) :-)

    it seems to me you turned off the default indicator (bouncing icon)
    but still want an indicator, and you want it to be replaced with a
    Redmond styled hourglass....i'm pretty sure that is possible, but i
    don't know to do it...maybe someone else can tell you.. :-)

    --
    palladium

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    busy mouse icon:
    Quote Originally Posted by gminnerup View Post
    Personal settings > Desktop > Launch feedback
    That's only to deactivate the bouncing icon. But how do I get the hourglass like icon? (It's not literally an hourglass, it depends on the mouse theme: for DMZ a rotating circle)

    changing background:
    Quote Originally Posted by gminnerup View Post
    Rightclick on desktop > Desktop settings
    If it were that easy I would have found it. There is no way of changing the background under desktop settings, only the theme. And changing to a custom theme with my custom panel icon doesn't work as I said in the original post.

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    Quote Originally Posted by ijbreakey View Post
    Hi,

    When you select a different background for the panel, the new theme is saved as custom. You must then change your theme to custom via right clicking on the desktop and choosing Desktop Settings. Then change Desktop Theme to Custom.

    Take Care,

    Ian
    I know I have to change it to Custom, the problem is that nothing changes if I changed the background of the Air (openSuse) theme. And if I start from another theme, it doesn't use my custom background but a background from a random other theme... Probably because something goes wrong and as a recovery it chooses some default background.

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    1. Really? Maybe it's diff. in KDE 4.3 but in 4.1.3, I get an arrow with two silver balls rotating in a circle under the arrow when it's "thinking" or loading.
    That's indeed the behavior I would like to see, but it's not. Only for Yast because that is in root mode...

    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    2. My icon's pretty big, but I think it's dependent upon the size of the taskbar.
    Really? For me it's just a small geeko head icon. Here are some icon's which have a size I would like:
    Inspirus KBFX KDE-Look.org

    But right now my start button is about the size of the logo in this link, without the text. That's too narrow for me and I would like a wider icon.

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    I dont think you can use custom panel backgrounds in KDE4, you can only use the ones offered to you by the plasma themes you download.
    The images it uses are .SVG's

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    Default Re: Gnome user trying KDE 4.3, some issues

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraIkeda View Post
    I dont think you can use custom panel backgrounds in KDE4, you can only use the ones offered to you by the plasma themes you download.
    The images it uses are .SVG's
    But then why is the option given to specify a custom file in the select background option? This would be a major drawback to me, since I like to customize my desktop just the way I like it. Especially the panel, since you are looking at that all the time, so it has to look good.

    Well I suppose it will be another year or so with gnome then until kde 4.4 is out, hopefully with more customisation options.

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