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    Hey there, Folks!
    Im experiencing some odd behaviour in my system lately:

    Starting up any application needing root permission pops up a window asking for the pass - and that is where the normal precodure ends. Now when punching in the pasword, absolutley _nothing_ happens. It doesnt even matter if the pass is correct or not. BUT executing the same application through console in sudo mode just works perfectly.

    Please tell me what is messed up and how to cure it if you are able to. Thanks.
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    palladium NNTP User

    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    look in /etc for a file named passwd
    there may or may not be several passwd.[something] where 'something'
    might be 'YAST2save']

    notice the dates on all versions of passwd and passwd.[something]

    would any of those dates match the time when you first noticed the
    "odd behaviour in my system **lately**"

    i mean, if "lately" was yesterday and there is a passwd dated
    yesterday, then you *might* need to save and then replace passwd dated
    yesterday with passwd.[something] dated yesterday or before

    CAUTION: if i'm wrong you could do more damage than fixin'...so
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    oh, what happens if you pop open a terminal and just type
    su -
    and hit enter...then give your root pass.....do you get a root prompt?

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    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    As I already said: In sudo/su mode through console I get asked for the password and everything is fine. And if I get a root prompt? Console asks for the pass - just as supposed to.
    Maybe I should digg a little deeper: This issue doesnt seem to be wired directly to YaST, but rather even occurs when startung a desctop link executing kdesu...
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    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    TheMask wrote:
    > As I already said: In sudo/su mode


    you had only mentioned sudo...su is different, and i was hoping for
    some slight differentiation to know where to begin digging..

    apparently the fault is not at system level (since both sudo AND su
    work) but rather in X or ??


    > Maybe I should digg a little deeper:


    try this: while logged into kde or gnome as yourself press down and
    hold the left Alt button and then press and release F2, in the
    resulting popup type

    kdesu yast2 [or, if using gnome: gnomesu yast2]

    does yast2 start?

    if so, navigate to Security and Users > User Management and add a new
    user (say, named test) and give 'test' a password..

    then, close YaST, log out (change user---not required to reboot) and
    log back in as test.....if the problems you see as you are not seen if
    logged in as test, then the problem is in one of the hidden files
    named /home/[you]/.[something]

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    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    Hey Mask,

    This has already been described a while ago. Does just 'su' and 'yast2' not work? And does 'su -' and yast2 work? Don't know what it was, disappeared after some updates. Don't have the time for searching the forum right now, shopping is expected to be done....that's PARADISE
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    Camalen NNTP User

    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    TheMask wrote:

    > Hey there, Folks!
    > Im experiencing some odd behaviour in my system lately:
    >
    > Starting up any application needing root permission pops up a window
    > asking for the pass - and that is where the normal precodure ends. Now
    > when punching in the pasword, absolutley _nothing_ happens. It doesnt
    > even matter if the pass is correct or not. BUT executing the same
    > application through console in sudo mode just works perfectly.
    >
    > Please tell me what is messed up and how to cure it if you are able to.


    Did you configure "sudo" at any stage? If "yes" then root's password is
    user's password so you have to provide the last one.

    Usually, when a popup window asking for a pass just quits and no application
    is openned, means that you provided the wrong credentials (username or
    password) so you have to re-check that ones.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    palladium, thanks for then hint, but this didnt work. As mentioned, the system only opens the door when asking for password via console.
    Plugging my own password int one of those popups does not work either. Knurpht, please take a second to look up the thread you mentioned - the popped up window does NOTHING (not even show an error message) when putting a password into it. Looks like a program failing its purpose...
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    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMask
    palladium, thanks for then hint, but this didnt work. As mentioned, the
    system only opens the door when asking for password via console.
    Plugging my own password int one of those popups does not work either.
    Knurpht, please take a second to look up the thread you mentioned - the
    popped up window does NOTHING (not even show an error message) when
    putting a password into it. Looks like a program failing its purpose...
    Hi
    When the dialog shows are you entering the sudo password or the root
    passwd?

    Have you set a root passwd? if so has it been accidentally changed?
    running the commands sudo -i then changing roots passwd with the passwd
    command should sort things out.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    Hm... Knurpht, your post confuses me somehow. Up until now Ive never had two different passes for sudo and root.
    The password propmt doesnt even react - means, there is no error message when pressing 'ENTER', no matter what I put in there.
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    Default Re: OpenSuse tired of root?

    TheMask wrote:
    > Hey there, Folks!
    > Im experiencing some odd behaviour in my system lately:
    >
    > Starting up any application needing root permission pops up a window
    > asking for the pass - and that is where the normal precodure ends. Now
    > when punching in the pasword, absolutley _nothing_ happens. It doesnt
    > even matter if the pass is correct or not. BUT executing the same
    > application through console in sudo mode just works perfectly.
    >
    > Please tell me what is messed up and how to cure it if you are able to.
    > Thanks.


    Try putting in your own password instead of roots. Ever since adding my
    self to the sudoers list, when I start yast it wants *my* password
    although the dialog says 'root'. When I sudo I have to put in root's
    password which I always thought was goofy. That's the point of sudo-
    being able to grant individual users admin rights w/o giving away the
    keys to the kingdom.

    Anyway, see if maybe that isn't the case here...

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