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    Default If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    I have 11.1, so I'm assuming that I can do the live update to 11.2, correct? So some questions:

    1. Will it update KDE to 4.3?
    2. Will it update all my non-swap partitions to ext4?
    3. Do I have to delete anything after live update?
    4. Are there any risks to live update instead of clean install?

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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    I dont think live update will be there actually, its only going to be featured in 11.2 and up as far as I know.
    As for a forced update to EXT4, no I dont think its going to happen...
    For many EXT4 is still too new
    And no, I dont think there will be any risks for updating.
    Even if you have to burn a new disk for 11.2 you can tell the installer not to touch your home partition.
    You may want to try the 11.2 DVD version, that is if you have a DVD burner.
    If not you can still customize things on the live CD.

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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    To upgrade from 11.1 to 11.2 it has been suggested like this:
    change repo source to new version (11.1 -> 11.2) using Yast or Zypper

    zypper ref
    zypper in zypper libzypp
    zypper dup
    No guarantees.

    And of course you will still be ext3.

    I recently did a complete format and installed 11.2 RC1 to get ext4 in place. User files restored from backup.
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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraIkeda View Post
    I dont think live update will be there actually, its only going to be featured in 11.2 and up as far as I know.
    As for a forced update to EXT4, no I dont think its going to happen...
    For many EXT4 is still too new
    And no, I dont think there will be any risks for updating.
    Even if you have to burn a new disk for 11.2 you can tell the installer not to touch your home partition.
    You may want to try the 11.2 DVD version, that is if you have a DVD burner.
    If not you can still customize things on the live CD.
    Thanks. A couple things:

    1. Do you know which version of KDE 4.3 it is? Is it 4.3.2?

    2. According to OpenSUSE's own site (or a link they send you to) it DOES support live update from 11.1:
    https://features.opensuse.org/305634
    With the 11.2 cycle, we want to offer users the ability to perform a live system upgrade in the manner of Debian's dist-upgrade.

    For the purpose of this cycle, we want to support dist-upgrade from the previous version (11.1) only, as this is a sufficiently complicated problem as is.

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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    To upgrade from 11.1 to 11.2 it has been suggested like this:
    No guarantees.

    And of course you will still be ext3.

    I recently did a complete format and installed 11.2 RC1 to get ext4 in place. User files restored from backup.
    Thanks!

    Can someone explain to me:

    1. Why ext4 is supposed to be "better"
    2. What exactly is the "rpoblem" with ext4 that cause so many to avoid it?

    I've read that there are cases where data can be lost - is this a real and common issue?

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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    kde4.3.1

    I never said anything about not using ext4
    ext4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Dataloss:
    Can happen with any file system , much depends on the user
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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    kde4.3.1

    I never said anything about not using ext4
    ext4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Dataloss:
    Can happen with any file system , much depends on the user
    Have you noticed if it's faster?

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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    Boot time and strangely (I don't know a reason) shutdown is quicker.
    But that's not just ext4 but the latest kernel.
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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    Ill add a question here: Does an upgrade from 11.1 to 11.2 via zypper not change the filesystem? Is a full re-install the only way to catch on to ext4?
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    Default Re: If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

    changing file systems requires a partition to be formatted...you won't
    do that with zypper, nor would you want to..

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