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    Default upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    I want to upgrade from 10.1 to 10.3. What's the most reliable way to do this? Right now I am running a dual boot with Windows XP and SUSE 10.1

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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    Forget it, 10.1 is ended and 10.3 is on it's way
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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    But let's say I wanted to upgrade to a newer version in the future. What's the best way to update your system to the newer version? I tried the Update through a 10.3 ISO but there were so many dependencies to resolve, I backed out of it.

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    imterpsfan2 wrote:
    > But let's say I wanted to upgrade to a newer version in the future.
    > What's the best way to update your system to the newer version? I tried
    > the Update through a 10.3 ISO but there were so many dependencies to
    > resolve, I backed out of it.


    as mentioned there is *no* _upgrade_ path from 10.1 to anything
    openSUSE.....see http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade

    that is not to say that you can't do a fresh install of any suitable
    Linux (openSUSE or other) on to that machine (if the machine itself
    meets the hardware requirements) by putting all data, documents,
    mails, video etc etc etc you wanna keep on other media and doing a
    fresh, format install from downloaded (or purchased) install media..

    depending on YOUR needs and hardware you may not be able to do what i
    would do:

    - backup all user generated/collected data

    - download, check md5sum, and burn install DVD (11.1 or 11.2)

    - buy and install a new hard drive (if the one you have was new when
    you loaded 10.1 it is now out of warranty)

    - disconnect the power and data cable from the old hard drive

    - install openSUSE, use it some..

    - shutdown, reconnect the old hard drive as slave..

    - boot to the new openSUSE, mount the old hard drive read only, and
    copy all data to your /home

    - futz for days to get it 'right'...

    - remove the old hard drive and keep it as archive only

    ymmv--and, there may well be other opinions here better for you than mine.

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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    Quote Originally Posted by imterpsfan2 View Post
    But let's say I wanted to upgrade to a newer version in the future. What's the best way to update your system to the newer version? I tried the Update through a 10.3 ISO but there were so many dependencies to resolve, I backed out of it.

    You should not do an update/upgrade to a new version unless you are an expert at resolving dependencies. If you know zypper and rpm like the back of your hand and what packages depend on others, and packages obsoletes others, then go for it. If you don't know this, don't.

    Now it's my understanding that 11.2 has addressed this issue and going forward, you will be able to do distribution upgrades. I would still recommend knowing the above. Knowing dependencies and so on.
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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    There are many significant differences between 10.1 and even 10.3. For example, 10.1 did not have a separate partition for /home. So you will need to back up /home before you consider any new version. Also 10.1 used reiserfs whereas 11.2 will use ext4.

    So the best way by far is to back up /home and and any mysql databases you have and do a completely fresh install, preferably in a month's time of 11.2. If the installer does not plan completely to overwrite 10.1, use expert mode to ensure that it does.

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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    On 10/23/2009 02:46 AM, john hudson wrote:
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    > There are many significant differences between 10.1 and even 10.3. For
    > example, 10.1 did not have a separate partition for /home. So you will
    > need to back up /home before you consider any new version. Also 10.1
    > used reiserfs whereas 11.2 will use ext4.


    You make it sound as if these choices are/were mandatory. In fact they
    are/were the defaults, but easily overridden.

    > So the best way by far is to back up /home and and any mysql databases
    > you have and do a completely fresh install, preferably in a month's time
    > of 11.2. If the installer does not plan completely to overwrite 10.1,
    > use expert mode to ensure that it does.


    Agreed. The only "gotcha" is that both KDE and Gnome in 11.2 have a
    larger footprint in terms of CPU and RAM than did 10.1. If the OP's
    machine has limited capability, then one of the lighter desktops may
    work better.


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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    Quote Originally Posted by lwfinger View Post
    You make it sound as if these choices are/were mandatory. In fact they
    are/were the defaults, but easily overridden.
    Agreed, but I was trying to keep my reply straightforward to match the straightforward question.

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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    John,

    With my 10.1 installation, I do have a separate partition for home.

    Palladium,

    I have a laptop. Rather than buy a new hard drive, I'm inclined to save what I need on a thumb drive. This is an older laptop with less RAM and HD space - that's why I wanted to upgrade to 10.3 instead of 11.2. I wanted to get rid of 10.1 because the repositories are old and don't get updated.

    What also complicates this is that I have a dual boot setup with XP. I guess I could always save everything I need off of home. Repartition and install new.

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    Default Re: upgrade 10.1 to 10.3

    Quote Originally Posted by imterpsfan2 View Post
    John,

    I wanted to get rid of 10.1 because the repositories are old and don't get updated.

    What also complicates this is that I have a dual boot setup with XP. I guess I could always save everything I need off of home. Repartition and install new.
    First: 10.3 is at it's end too. Soon you will get no updates anymore for 10.3 as well.

    Second: what's the laptop's hardware. Take a look at the hardware requirements for 11.1. See what a live CD does on the laptop's hardware. If it runs, I would say the hardware will do (mind, the live-cd's do no excel in speed)

    Third: you will be amazed at the gain of speed and smoothness. I wouldn't repartition, try to reuse /home, format /, XP will be added to bootloader.
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