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    Smile 11.2 preperation

    Hi there,

    With opensuse 11.2 just around the corner, I wanted to ask a few questions to get advice about how to go about streamlining the install process, with regards to online updates in particular.

    I have noticed that while doing installations of 11.1 that if I choose the option to do automatic updates while it is installing, it is incredibly, incredibly slow... Doesn't matter what Internet connection I use, it is still incredibly frustrationgly slow (2Kb and less average download speeds...)

    Once I am up and running, and have done the first few lots of major updates it suddenly seems to come right and I get fairly decent speeds while downloading the updates. So, is there a way that I can set a location based on country, or add a different update server to improve the initial install process. Is there maybe a command to test the update servers to get the fastest server first.

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    Default Re: 11.2 preperation

    Quote Originally Posted by Dredger View Post
    So, is there a way that I can set a location based on country, or add a different update server to improve the initial install process. Is there maybe a command to test the update servers to get the fastest server first.
    From what I recall seeing in all the latest openSUSE releases, the openSUSE installer checks for the fastest server.

    Where are you located? I get VERY FAST updates immediately, as part of the install process and its not uncommon for me to get 12 Mb/sec or better. I have a high speed connection in Darmstadt Germany.

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    > I have noticed that while doing installations of 11.1 that if I
    > choose the option to do automatic updates while it is installing,
    > it is incredibly, incredibly slow... Doesn't matter what Internet
    > connection I use, it is still incredibly frustrationgly slow (2Kb
    > and less average download speeds...)


    my advice: PLAN for it to be slow....not much you can do about
    it...remember exactly how much you are paying for the software!
    remember that the almost all of the software you download will NOT
    come from huge internet servers owned by openSUSE, or Novell, or that
    software company in Redmond Washington with multi-billionairs in the
    board rooms and secretaries who are now millionairs (really!)..

    nope, you get your FREE software from university, government and
    company servers who DONATE their space and bandwidth to you and me..

    so, PLAN for the download to be both FREE and SLOW....

    what i do, is get it started and walk away from the computer....read a
    book, watch TV, whatever....come back in an hour and see whats going on..

    that way, it ain't SO slow.....



    > Is there maybe a command to test the update servers to get the
    > fastest server first.


    actually, you are automatically connected to a nearby, and hopefully
    fast server.....by the way, most of the FREE servers will throttle
    down the outgoing free pipe to make sure the university students,
    company staff and government workers have the bandwidth they
    need....and THEN the non-paying us get what is left.....so, if you
    install at say 2 in the morning, your time, you will probably do a LOT
    better than 2 in the afternoon...and, you can sleep instead of watch
    TV :-)

    plan ahead
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    Default Re: 11.2 preperation

    Hi Oldcpu,

    I am located in Johannesburg, South Africa. My office Internet connection is a 4MB commection, which downloads things from the web with lightning speed, but even on the 4MB line it struggles. My home connection is only 1MB, but I get the same speeds when downloading the updates during the install (I tried both with a fresh install to test).

    When I download things from the web, they download at the correct speeds. But I have noticed that if I need to install an additional program, it is faster to download the RPM than to let yast download them. Most unusual.

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    http://mirrors.opensuse.org/list/all.html

    only two servers down there..

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    Default Re: 11.2 preperation

    Quote Originally Posted by Dredger View Post
    When I download things from the web, they download at the correct speeds. But I have noticed that if I need to install an additional program, it is faster to download the RPM than to let yast download them. Most unusual.
    One thing I always do, as part of the install, is change the default setting for ipv6 (which is "enable") to "disable". I recall that being an installation DVD option, ... I'm not so certain it is an installation CD option. I believe disable ipv6 provides a better chance of faster updates.

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    Default Re: 11.2 preperation

    I don't think the issue with updates is bandwidth but that the installer has to stop in the middle of installing something to do something else; I have always installed everything without updates and then got the updates afterwards.

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    Default Re: 11.2 preperation

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    One thing I always do, as part of the install, is change the default setting for ipv6 (which is "enable") to "disable". I recall that being an installation DVD option, ... I'm not so certain it is an installation CD option. I believe disable ipv6 provides a better chance of faster updates.
    I do the same thing.
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    Default Re: 11.2 preperation

    Before I upgrade I will back up.

    But, I don't know if I should move up to ext4. Don't see much about it, so it seems like it isn't a big deal. Is there a compelling reason to go for ext4?

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    Default Re: 11.2 preperation

    Quote Originally Posted by Prexy View Post
    Before I upgrade I will back up.

    But, I don't know if I should move up to ext4. Don't see much about it, so it seems like it isn't a big deal. Is there a compelling reason to go for ext4?
    Maybe this will help. Ext4 - Linux Kernel Newbies
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