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  1. #1
    Marco NNTP User

    Default Java Development Packages

    Hi

    I am a Java Developer and I wonder why in all Distributions I never can
    get the latest Eclipse IDE in a package. OpenSuse proved 3.4.2 but the
    current release is already 3.5.1.

    I mean Eclipse is a huge product with a lot of testing already involved,
    so a release is stable. Why are there no actual packages available? I
    dont want to work with a 1.5 year old version. But ok, I am already used
    to download this and drop in my home folder.

    And the second thing is the Maven-Buildtool. There is no package
    available at all in OpenSuse. This is a very important tool and since
    you run it quite often with some scripts and so on it would be nice if I
    wouldnt have to configure this by myself (setting path variables and so on).

    I mean gcc and make are also available

    Is there a chance that this will change?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Marco NNTP User

    Default Re: Java Development Packages

    More problems for Java Devs

    JAVA_HOME is not set automatically. I have to modify the etc/profile
    myself. Even worse, some tools I need to run some special tasks, namely
    schemagen and xjc cannot be resolved. They are part of Java 6 which is
    installed and the tools are in the installation folder, but they havent
    been moved to /usr/bin (like it is done for java and javac command).

    I was planning to use this distro for working because it is known to be
    very stabel, its nicely polished, and I had good experience running a
    server with opensuse 10 at my parents. But if I need half a day just to
    setup some stupid variables, move commands around and so on...
    I mean, this shouldnt be a big deal and as a user I expect these common
    things to be in place.

    Sorry for all my complaints, but this is going to waste a lot of my
    time. If I am wrong and just oversaw something feel free to correct me
    and I will take it all back

    Am 18.10.2009 14:14, schrieb Marco:
    > Hi
    >
    > I am a Java Developer and I wonder why in all Distributions I never can
    > get the latest Eclipse IDE in a package. OpenSuse proved 3.4.2 but the
    > current release is already 3.5.1.
    >
    > I mean Eclipse is a huge product with a lot of testing already involved,
    > so a release is stable. Why are there no actual packages available? I
    > dont want to work with a 1.5 year old version. But ok, I am already used
    > to download this and drop in my home folder.
    >
    > And the second thing is the Maven-Buildtool. There is no package
    > available at all in OpenSuse. This is a very important tool and since
    > you run it quite often with some scripts and so on it would be nice if I
    > wouldnt have to configure this by myself (setting path variables and so on).
    >
    > I mean gcc and make are also available
    >
    > Is there a chance that this will change?
    >
    > Thanks



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    Default Re: Java Development Packages

    Some time before I also wondered about this question and had a look at the Eclipse package spec in OBS. It seems that the build process is complex, and has a lot of dependencies.

    My guess is that it might be hard work to upgrade the packages to the next version, and nobody volunteered to do it (which I can understand).

    The other thing is also that once you install Eclipse, you still might have to install additional plugins that are not packaged as RPM. So it somehow removes the goodness of having a package manager. Anyway, downloading Eclipse and extracting it is pretty easy to do.

  4. #4
    Marco NNTP User

    Default Re: Java Development Packages

    Thanks for this insight. Makes sense, and downloading eclipse in the way
    I need it might weven be better.

    But the other issues are troublesome.
    In case of the two tools from the JDK (schemagen and xjc) I wrote a
    script that does the ugly work with all the directories, but I think
    this should be all provided when I install this. By the way, I installed
    the sun-package and removed openJdk.

    Am 20.10.2009 16:16, schrieb PVince81:
    >
    > Some time before I also wondered about this question and had a look at
    > the Eclipse package spec in OBS. It seems that the build process is
    > complex, and has a lot of dependencies.
    >
    > My guess is that it might be hard work to upgrade the packages to the
    > next version, and nobody volunteered to do it (which I can understand).
    >
    > The other thing is also that once you install Eclipse, you still might
    > have to install additional plugins that are not packaged as RPM. So it
    > somehow removes the goodness of having a package manager. Anyway,
    > downloading Eclipse and extracting it is pretty easy to do.
    >




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