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    Question Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    I am puzzled about one thing. If you go to detailed bug report to get an overall idea on "how buggy a release is" you get the following picture:
    11.0 now has a consistently lower number of bugs then some month ago. 11.1 has practically perfectly the same number of open bugs since it came out.
    This can indicate:
    a) no bugfixing has been made any more because 11.2 takes up all the manpower and 11.1 has been "dropped" because unappealing?
    b) people nearly do not use 11.0 any more and for every bug fixed in 11.1 there are a lot of new reported for 11.1. So the lack of bugfixing for 11.1 is only apparent.

    Has anybody noticed the same?
    Just a curiosity, this is not a "soapbox rant" or similar. It will help however my advices about what version to install if people ask for help with linux.
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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    An increase could also mean more software development has been done.....You could find out if you laid the current list of open bugs against that of the release date.
    From what I remember, numbers of open bugs always goes down a bit after a new version has been released. That would be about your second option.

    From experience I can tell this: bug fixing is an ongoing process; some bugs are solved, new ones appear.
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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    My guess, I'd say more bugs are fixed in 11.0 because it's a version that
    SLED is based on. Gotta keep those enterprise customers happy. The benefit
    is the patches make it into OS 11.0.


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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 20:55 +0000, GofBorg wrote:
    > My guess, I'd say more bugs are fixed in 11.0 because it's a version that
    > SLED is based on. Gotta keep those enterprise customers happy. The benefit
    > is the patches make it into OS 11.0.
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    SLED is 11.1 like, not 11.0



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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    > On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 20:55 +0000, GofBorg wrote:
    >> My guess, I'd say more bugs are fixed in 11.0 because it's a version that
    >> SLED is based on. Gotta keep those enterprise customers happy. The
    >> benefit is the patches make it into OS 11.0.
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    > SLED is 11.1 like, not 11.0


    Yah. It's 11.0 with patches/updates to make it 11.1ish
    Just like my OpenSuSE 11.1 is 11.2ish



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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    @GofBorg
    Where do they state which version is the base for their SLED version. This would be actually a very good argument and would be an oportunity for who is wanting to have a stable system of the whole cicle.
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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    > @GofBorg
    > Where do they state which version is the base for their SLED version.
    > This would be actually a very good argument and would be an oportunity
    > for who is wanting to have a stable system of the whole cicle.


    They don't really state it, you kind of just have to figure it out based
    on which version of OpenSuSE is shipping just prior to the release of
    SLED/SLES. It looks like I'm in error though, I found a review that says
    SLED was based on 11.1, which makes sense since it shipped with KDE 4.1,
    not 4.0.3 at least according to this review I'm looking at.




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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    From what I remember, SLED 11 was based off of 11.1, just as SLED 10 was based off of 10.1. In fact, I recall reading a press release for one of the early 11.1 kernel updates that said something to the effect of "brings the kernel version in line with what will be shipped in SLED 11", so it would appear that 11.1 is indeed the basis for SLED 11.

    Either way, bugs in things like operating systems can number in the (tens of?)thousands; even if the list of known bugs is less on one version than another, it doesn't mean one is any less buggy than the other. I am also sure that, following the release of 11.2, it will have more reported bugs than 11.1; this is expected, and over time the number of bugs will stabilize.

    IMHO, one of the (many) marks of a good distribution is reducing the number of bugs between each release after things have had time to settle. That said, bug fixing alone does not in itself determine whether a release is good or not; it all depends on the end user and their hardware. Someone could use the most bug-ridden distribution in the world, but be perfectly happy b/c everything works for them, while another user could use a distribution with little to no bugs, but just happen to suffer from every one of the bugs it does have, and be completely dissatisfied.

    In short, ymmv.

    Edit: Found a blog where it states SLED 11 was based of off 11.1: http://www.benkevan.com/blog/first-l...prise-desktop/
    I'm sure with more searching, one could find official Novell documentation that states it as such.
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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    Someone could use the most bug-ridden distribution in the world, but be perfectly happy b/c everything works for them, while another user could use a distribution with little to no bugs, but just happen to suffer from every one of the bugs it does have, and be completely dissatisfied.
    Good point. However I have to say, although I have been gotten somehow conservative (using still KDE 3.5) the bugs (like bluetooth not working, KDM theme manager working in an odd way, networkmanagertrouble and so on and so forth do not make me very happy with 11.1.
    But you are perfectly right. One can never state which distribution is best. Nevertheless one can come to better odds. Maybe....
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    Default Re: Is there still bug fixing going on, on version 11.1?

    > But you are perfectly right. One can never state which distribution is
    > best. Nevertheless one can come to better odds. Maybe....


    In answer to the original question...technically yes, 11.1 is still
    supported so you should still be getting fixes.

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