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    Default Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    I just installed 11.2 milestone 8 with KDE on a Thinkpad T61p. I am amazed at the great installation experience and the fact that my hardware works out of the box! Great stuff.

    Now I want to tweak my Trackpoint settings. I want the pointer speed to be faster and the movement more sensitive. And I want to get middle button scrolling in Firefox to work better.

    I also want to enable desktop effects. (My laptop has an NVidia 570M card.)

    Where should I look for help on these issues? Thanks.

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    Default Re: Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    System Settings - Keyboard and Mouse - Mouse

    Graphics is a bigger issue. I'm not sure about your GPU 570M

    You could just try going to the System Settings - Desktop - Desktop Effects and Enable (This is for KDE, Gnome might be different)

    You may need to go to Yast - Hardware - Graphics and Monitor
    See if the 3D check box is ticked.

    Open a terminal and do:
    Code:
    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    Post that and we will know some more
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    Default Re: Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    Thank you for your reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    System Settings - Keyboard and Mouse - Mouse
    The Trackpoint settings (e.g. sensitivity, inertia, etc.) are not there. The pointer acceleration is the only option available there and it has little or no effect on the trackpoint.

    Previously I set these Trackpoint values via text files under locations such as
    Code:
    /sys/devices/platform/i8042/
    The specific location seems to be distro and device dependent and I'm not sure how one determines where to put these files.

    I could experiment, but I'd rather know the right way to do this in OpenSUSE.

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    Graphics is a bigger issue. I'm not sure about your GPU 570M

    You could just try going to the System Settings - Desktop - Desktop Effects and Enable (This is for KDE, Gnome might be different)

    You may need to go to Yast - Hardware - Graphics and Monitor
    See if the 3D check box is ticked.
    In Yast, under Hardware I do not have "Graphics and Monitor". It shows everything else, including my Fingerprint reader, infrared and even lists TV Card. But no "Graphics and Monitor".

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    Open a terminal and do:
    Code:
    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    Post that and we will know some more
    I thought all the mouse and input stuff had been moved to evdev in the latest X org... I'm coming here from Ubuntu and I was a bit of a newbie on Ubuntu still, so now I'm back to feeling like a real newbie again.

    myuser@linux-t9jd:~> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory

    I poked around and found this file:
    Code:
    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install 
    Section "Device"                                          
      Identifier "vboxvideo"                                  
      Driver  "vboxvideo"                                     
    EndSection                                                
    
    Section "Screen"
      Identifier "vboxvideo"
      Device "vboxvideo"    
    EndSection              
    
    
    Section "Device"
      Identifier "vmware"
      Driver  "vmware"   
    EndSection           
    
    Section "Screen"
      Identifier "vmware"
      Device "vmware"    
    EndSection           
    
    
    Section "Device"
      Identifier "cirrus"
      Driver  "cirrus"   
    EndSection           
    Section "Screen"
      Identifier "cirrus"
      Device "cirrus"
    EndSection
    
    
    Section "Device"
      Identifier "fbdev"
      Driver  "fbdev"
    EndSection
    Section "Screen"
      Identifier "fbdev"
      Device "fbdev"
    EndSection
    
    
    Section "Device"
      Identifier "vesa"
      Driver  "vesa"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
      Identifier "vesa"
      Device "vesa"
    EndSection
    
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
      Identifier "Layout"
      Screen  "vboxvideo"
      Screen  "vmware"
      Screen  "cirrus"
      Screen  "fbdev"
      Screen  "vesa"
    EndSection

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    Default Re: Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    You must have done something wrong. Try again.

    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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    Default Re: Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    BTW, here is a working X.org.conf that I used on this same hardware with a prior version of Ubuntu (8.04 I think). My hardware is still the same.

    Can I use these same settings now on KDE/OpenSUSE 11.2?

    Code:
    # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
    #
    # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
    # values from the debconf database.
    #
    # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
    # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
    #
    # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
    # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
    # package.
    #
    # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
    # again, run the following command:
    #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
    
    Section "Files"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
            Driver          "kbd"
            Option          "CoreKeyboard"
            Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
            Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
            Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
            Driver          "mouse"
            Option          "CorePointer"
            Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
            Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
            Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
            Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "on"
            Option          "EmulateWheel"          "on"
            Option          "EmulateWheelTimeOut"   "200"
            Option          "Emulate3TimeOut"       "50"
            Option          "EmulateWheelButton"    "2"
            Option      "YAxisMapping"        "4 5"
            Option      "XAxisMapping"        "6 7"
    
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
            Driver          "synaptics"
            Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
            Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
            Option          "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
            Option          "HorizScrollDelta"      "1"
    EndSection
    
    
    Section "Device"
    	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 570M]"
    	Driver		"nvidia"
    	Busid		"PCI:1:0:0"
    	# (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBVisuals" is not used
    	# Option	"AddARGBVisuals"	"True"
    	Option		"AddARGBGLXVisuals"	"True"
    	Option		"NoLogo"	"True"
    	Option          "NvAGP" "1" #I changed this see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
    	Option		"DPMS"
    	Horizsync	28-96
    	Vertrefresh	43-60
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier	"Default Screen"
    	Device		"nVidia Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 570M]"
    	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
    	Defaultdepth	24
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Modes		"1920x1200"
    	EndSubSection #https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/34043
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
    	Identifier	"Default Layout"
      screen "Default Screen"
    	Inputdevice	"Generic Keyboard"
    	Inputdevice	"Configured Mouse" 
    	
    	# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
    	#	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents"
    	#	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"
    	#	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents"
    	Inputdevice	"Synaptics Touchpad"
    EndSection
    Section "Module"
    	Load		"glx"
    EndSection
    and here are my previous Trackpoint settings:
    Code:
    #trackpoint configuration
    devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed=175
    devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity=160
    devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/inertia=10
    Maybe I'll try the exact same thing with OpenSUSE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    You must have done something wrong. Try again.

    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

    Are you using gnome or kde4? Just so I know where to send you. I'm really a kde user.
    I'm using KDE.

    I didn't do anything wrong with the cat. Here's proof:

    Code:
    ls /etc/X11/
    fs         qtrc         xdm    xinit           xorg.conf.install
    lbxproxy   rstart       xim    Xmodmap         Xresources
    proxymngr  x11perfcomp  xim.d  Xmodmap.remote  xsm

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    Default Re: Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    Logout and do a console login and switch to su and do:
    sax2 -r
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    Default Re: Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    Comparing those two xorg.conf files (Ubuntu and openSUSE) it looks to me like with Ubuntu your driver was "nvidia" which is the proprietary nVidia graphic driver. With openSUSE your driver was "vesa" which is the low performance but highly compatible VESA graphic driver.

    I confess I did not read the entire thread, but clearly the proprietary nVidia driver (that you installed on Ubuntu) should provide significantly superior performance over the lower peformance VESA driver. If you wish to compare apples to apples you need to install the high performance proprietary nVidia driver on openSUSE.

    Since you are new ... some links that might help you:

    Our forum installation stickie (yes it is written for 11.1 but most of it also applies to 11.2): NEW Users - Suse-11.1 Pre-installation PLEASE READ - openSUSE Forums

    OpenSUSE concepts: Concepts - openSUSE

    ... also, a word about 11.2 milestone-8. This is in essence equivalent to a beta release. It is NOT intended for a production system and installing it as such is bound to lead to grief in most cases. If you want to try out openSUSE, then either install 11.1 or wait a couple of months and try out 11.2.

    11.2 milestone8 is intended for users to test and write bug reports - it is not intended to remain on a PC. When 11.2 GM (the released version) comes out in November my recommendations will be to re-install 11.2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    Logout and do a console login and switch to su and do:
    sax2 -r
    Thanks. I did that. Now I have an xorg.conf file.

    Code:
    # /.../                                                  
    # SaX generated X11 config file                          
    # Created on: 2009-10-13T10:08:55-0400.                  
    #                                                        
    # Version: 8.1                                           
    # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2005           
    # Contact: SaX-User list <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users>
    #                                                                             
    # Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)                                     
    # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!                                               
    #                                                                             
    
    Section "Files"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/local"        
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"          
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/URW"            
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"         
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"            
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"       
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1"          
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled" 
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"      
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"     
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv"                
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"              
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"          
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/CID"                   
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"     
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"    
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"   
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"  
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled" 
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1"          
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"     
      FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/xtest"                 
      FontPath     "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"                  
      InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"                           
      InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"                        
    EndSection                                              
    
    Section "ServerFlags"
      Option       "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
      Option       "ZapWarning" "on"        
    EndSection                              
    
    Section "Module"
      Load         "dri"
      Load         "dbe"
      Load         "extmod"
      Load         "glx"   
    EndSection             
    
    Section "InputDevice"
      # Driver "kbd" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"' 
      # is set in "ServerFlags" section.                                     
      Driver       "kbd"                                                     
      Identifier   "Keyboard[0]"                                             
      Option       "Protocol" "Standard"                                     
      Option       "XkbLayout" "us"                                          
      Option       "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"                                 
      Option       "XkbRules" "xfree86"                                      
    EndSection                                                               
    
    
    Section "InputDevice"
      # Driver "mouse" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"' 
      # is set in "ServerFlags" section.                                       
      Driver       "mouse"                                                     
      Identifier   "Mouse[1]"                                                  
      Option       "Buttons" "5"                                               
      Option       "Device" "/dev/input/mice"                                  
      Option       "Name" "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"                         
      Option       "Protocol" "explorerps/2"                                   
      Option       "Vendor" "Sysp"                                             
      Option       "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"                                        
    EndSection                                                                 
    
    
    Section "Monitor"
      Option       "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
      DisplaySize  331 207                      
      HorizSync    30-94                        
      Identifier   "Monitor[0]"                 
      ModelName    "LENOVO LCD MONITOR"         
      Option       "DPMS"                       
      Option       "PreferredMode" "1920x1200"  
      VendorName   "LEN"                        
      VertRefresh  43-60                        
      UseModes     "Modes[0]"                   
    EndSection                                  
    
    
    Section "Modes"
      Identifier   "Modes[0]"
    EndSection               
    
    
    Section "Screen"
      DefaultDepth 24
      SubSection "Display"
        Depth      15     
        Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
      EndSubSection                                                                 
      SubSection "Display"                                                          
        Depth      16                                                               
        Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
      EndSubSection                                                                 
      SubSection "Display"                                                          
        Depth      24                                                               
        Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
      EndSubSection                                                                 
      SubSection "Display"                                                          
        Depth      8                                                                
        Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
      EndSubSection
      Device       "Device[0]"
      Identifier   "Screen[0]"
      Monitor      "Monitor[0]"
    EndSection
    
    
    Section "Device"
      BoardName    "Quadro FX 570M"
      Driver       "nv"
      Identifier   "Device[0]"
      VendorName   "NVidia"
    EndSection
    
    
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
      Identifier   "Layout[all]"
      InputDevice  "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
      InputDevice  "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
      Option       "Clone" "off"
      Option       "Xinerama" "off"
      Screen       "Screen[0]"
    EndSection
    
    
    Section "DRI"
        Group      "video"
        Mode       0660
    EndSection
    
    Section "Extensions"
      Option       "Composite" "off"
    EndSection
    I still do not have "Graphics and Monitors" in Yast Hardware.

    EDIT. I also get this message in Desktop Effectss now (it was not there before):

    Compositing is not supported on your system.
    Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available.
    Last edited by MountainX; 13-Oct-2009 at 07:21. Reason: added desktop effects message

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    Default Re: Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

    Quote Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
    Thanks. I did that. Now I have an xorg.conf file.
    Code:
    Section "Device"
      BoardName    "Quadro FX 570M"
      Driver       "nv"
      Identifier   "Device[0]"
      VendorName   "NVidia"
    EndSection
    ....
    Compositing is not supported on your system.
    Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available.
    For the record, by running that command "sax2 -r", your video driver has been changed from using the "VESA" graphic driver to using the "nv" graphic driver, where "nv" graphic driver is the open source free graphic driver for nvidia graphics hardware (not to be confused with "nvidia" which is the proprietary nvidia graphic driver). The "nv" driver is reasonably compatible with various kernel builds, and has much higher performance than the VESA driver but significantly less performance than the "nvidia" driver, which may in part explain why "Compositing is not supported on your system".

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