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    Default openSUSE 11.2 will support live updates

    I was just going through 11.2 features at OpenSUSE 11.2 - openSUSE, and I found out that 11.2 will also support live updates: https://features.opensuse.org/305634

    This is such a nice feature and will save everyone a lot of time. I remember I did a dist-upgrade in Ubuntu once and it worked nicely. I had been thinking for a while now that after 11.2 releases I will have to re-install all the tools(Libraries, IDE's, etc) that I had installed on my 11.1 system. But if this feature works I will be such a happy man .
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    Default Re: openSUSE 11.2 will support live updates

    this is one of those improvements that will have a huge unnoticed impact, and I commend all those responsible for the effort (not a trivial task indeed).

    Kudos.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 11.2 will support live updates

    Is it implemented yet? It's status is still as candidate. I haven't read all the comments tho. Too lazy atm

    I hope Duncan brings this asap

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    Default Re: openSUSE 11.2 will support live updates

    Quote Originally Posted by j_xavier View Post
    this is one of those improvements that will have a huge unnoticed impact, and I commend all those responsible for the effort (not a trivial task indeed).

    Kudos.
    Yes indeed, a very well deserved Kudos...

    Quote Originally Posted by microchip8;
    Is it implemented yet? It's status is still as candidate. I haven't read all the comments tho.
    This is is the last line of DESCRIPTION here https://features.opensuse.org/305634
    In the openSUSE scope, we should aim to be able to "dup" between incremental versions, starting from 11.1 to 11.2, and later 11.x to 12.0.
    So we can expect that we will be doing a dist-upgrade from openSUSE11.1 to openSUSE 11.2 this way

    Such a nice feature...
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    Default Re: openSUSE 11.2 will support live updates

    Quote Originally Posted by vendetta18 View Post
    This is is the last line of DESCRIPTION here https://features.opensuse.org/305634
    So we can expect that we will be doing a dist-upgrade from openSUSE11.1 to openSUSE 11.2 this way
    Indeed, but that was working (for me) already from 11.0 to 11.1..... lookslike it was (just) more stabilized?

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    Default Re: openSUSE 11.2 will support live updates

    Wow - this is fantastic, and extremely important. Well done to those who are implementing this.

    As an aside, in Solaris with ZFS, upgrading is very interesting as you can actually create a snapshot of the entire old install, then it upgrades to the new release. If there are problems, you have the old environment in a pristine and bootable state. This is also similar to the OLPC which retains the previous OS when and update is done. I think this model is pretty great, and perhaps some day we will see this more commonly in Linux distros in general. Of course, I'd love to see ZFS just released in whole GPL, but time will tell.

    In any event - this dup support is really fantastic.

    Cheers,
    LewsTherin

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    Default Re: openSUSE 11.2 will support live updates

    Why is this a new feature? I do use "zypper dup" for quite a time now to jump to the next top version. You have to dup befor you jump to the next release, than add the new repositories, disable the old repositories and than do dup again. Worked quite good for me on on 11.3 to 11.0 and 11.0 to 11.1 an on my vServer.

    (I do have my vServer for 6 Month now and it was deliverd with 10.3) I do not know exactly since when I do use dup. I think since 11.0 factory.

    Ok, In SLE it might be new: "With the introduction of the Zypper stack to SLE, we finally reached the state of a featureful (which YOU was not) and fast, reliable (which ZLM was not) update stack in the platform."

    And to cite this comment: "I think the "Debian" part of the title is missleading if what we want is just to support dup officially."

    Greetings

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