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    Default What to use

    We currently have a Novell 3.12 server that works fine. However, it is about 9 years old and of course 3.12 can't use new hardware.

    I intend to replace it with a linux server as I have no use for a windoze server. The old Novell has spoiled me. It just set there and runs and nothing ever has to be done to it.

    The linux server needs to be accessed from MS-DOS and windows 98SE. Our needs are simple and it does not even need to access the internet. We have a DOS program that is accessed on the server and we have an accounting program that is accessed. These are the main things that must be on the server and be accessed.

    I am fairly expert with DOS and windoze, but am still a beginner in linux. I have played around with Ubuntu, but for some reason have been totally unable to connect to it with our current computers.

    I have a nice new box with an AMD 6000+, Asus mb, 4 gb of 800 ram, two 500 gb drives I would like to run in a RAID configuration with both the same.

    After looking around, SUSE came highly recommended and I decided to try it on the box and see what happened.

    When I started to download, I found there was a choice between KDE4 and Gnome. Knowing nothing about SUSE, I have no idea of the difference.

    For my purposes and with my lack of linux knowledge, which will be best for me to use?

    Also, of course, any help in setting it up properly to run what I need run would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

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    I'm a KDE person myself, but I would be inclined to say you should go for Gnome. kde4 is not the best in 11.1 and whilst kde3 is also available (and kde3 is rock solid) it's being put on the back burner a little.
    There are a number of experts in the forum who can answer your question more fully, @Chrysantine comes to mind.
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    I would even say, why install a DE at all? It seems that it has to become a rather stable system, normaly use only for attached to from outside (but it is not clear to me with what protocols you want to access the system, only saying " ,,, server needs to be accessed from MS-DOS and windows 98SE ..." is not enough for me). System management tasks can be done using the CLI, including using the YaST ncurses interface.
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    (but it is not clear to me with what protocols you want to access the system, only saying " ,,, server needs to be accessed from MS-DOS and windows 98SE ..." is not enough for me). System management tasks can be done using the CLI, including using the YaST ncurses interface.

    Let me say your last sentence has me at a total loss as I have no knowledge of the meaning of the acronyms you use.

    However, currently we have a database program written to basically run the company and keep up with everything, written in Foxpro and runs in MS-DOS. This resides on our Novell server and is accessed by DOS in DOS computers and from DOS prompts in win98 computers.

    We also use MAS90 accounting. This is a windoze program and resides on the server, limited to three users at one time, an dis accessed by win98 computers.

    We keep some files and data on the server such as XL files, DOC files, etc. that we access with the win98 computers.

    With our main custom written program in DOS we have no desire to upgrade to a windows above 98 that does not have good DOS access. I certainly do not want the hassle of a windoze server with all their problems, crashes, reboots, etc.

    Does this give you more info to work with?

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    webwizard wrote:

    >
    > We currently have a Novell 3.12 server that works fine. However, it is
    > about 9 years old and of course 3.12 can't use new hardware.
    >
    > I intend to replace it with a linux server as I have no use for a
    > windoze server. The old Novell has spoiled me. It just set there and
    > runs and nothing ever has to be done to it.
    >
    > The linux server needs to be accessed from MS-DOS and windows 98SE. Our
    > needs are simple and it does not even need to access the internet. We
    > have a DOS program that is accessed on the server and we have an
    > accounting program that is accessed. These are the main things that must
    > be on the server and be accessed.
    >
    > I am fairly expert with DOS and windoze, but am still a beginner in
    > linux. I have played around with Ubuntu, but for some reason have been
    > totally unable to connect to it with our current computers.
    >
    > I have a nice new box with an AMD 6000+, Asus mb, 4 gb of 800 ram, two
    > 500 gb drives I would like to run in a RAID configuration with both the
    > same.
    >
    > After looking around, SUSE came highly recommended and I decided to try
    > it on the box and see what happened.
    >
    > When I started to download, I found there was a choice between KDE4 and
    > Gnome. Knowing nothing about SUSE, I have no idea of the difference.
    >
    > For my purposes and with my lack of linux knowledge, which will be best
    > for me to use?
    >
    > Also, of course, any help in setting it up properly to run what I need
    > run would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
    >
    >


    They're kinda like Coke and Pepsi in a way. Either would do the job of
    being a desktop environment/window manager. Some people like KDE, others
    GNOME. For example, at work our senior sys-admin is a GNOME guy.
    Personally, I like KDE although I'm still using version 3.5 and haven't
    been too impressed with the version 4 releases. That being said I haven't
    tried the new 4.3 version of KDE.

    Bottom line in my opinion is pick one. Try it for a while. If it's not to
    your liking try the other. If neither are to your liking there are others
    out there.

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    kev.

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    This is just a thought that came to me in regards to your DOS needs I have no personal experience with it. (Did use MS DOS back in the day but my memory has gone gui.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    kde3 is also available (and kde3 is rock solid) it's being put on the back burner a little.
    On the back burner? My understanding is that KDE3 will be dropped from openSUSE as of 11.2. There are no new releases planned for it by the KDE Project, only maintenance patches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief_sealth View Post
    On the back burner? My understanding is that KDE3 will be dropped from openSUSE as of 11.2. There are no new releases planned for it by the KDE Project, only maintenance patches.
    Correct. But I was discussing current release. Your question was not posted in pre-release/beta.
    I have to assume you are looking at 11.1
    And FYI, if you plans are long term, you might want to consider SUSE Linux Lifetime - openSUSE

    An option would be to go SLES: Linux OS | SUSE Linux Enterprise
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    I wasn't the OP, but I see your point. Still, I wouldn't advise somebody to get comforatable with KDE3 myself, as it's low in priority and being phased out. 3.5.10 appears to be the end. There are still a lot of loyal users though, so who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief_sealth View Post
    I wasn't the OP, but I see your point. Still, I wouldn't advise somebody to get comforatable with KDE3 myself, as it's low in priority and being phased out. 3.5.10 appears to be the end. There are still a lot of loyal users though, so who knows?
    Sorry - of course you are not the OP. My mistake.
    I agree kde3 looks dead but it will be supported in 11.1 until end of life. Which is why I recommended Gnome, if only tentatively.
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