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    Angry Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    I know I have asked before & OldCPU has tried to help, & that regular readers of my blathers will know that I have had a few problems with sounds in openSuse. Here are a few of the problems I have at current:


    In NO particular order:


    • Google video = no sound
    • You tube = no sound
    • BBC radio (live streaming ) = no sound
    • BBC audio (listen again streaming) = no sound
    • Headphones do not mute speakers
    • End or restart KDE session plays sounds
    • Amarok does not play when using xine/autodetect
    • Amarok does not play when using xine/pulse audio
    • Amarok DOES play using xine/oss
    • Amarok DOES play using xine/ALSA; Speakers OK(ish), Headphones horrible (mp3)
    • When moving "LR Balance" in kmix, the slider is DIRECTLY tied to the MASTER Volume, ie, slide to full right balance, equally brings down master vol, so the further to the right, the lower the master vol slider follows to zero.
    • mplayer fell over when playing an .avi, BUT:
    • mplayer played mp3 fine. via speakers but horrible through phones.
    • mplayer plays .flv ok but with sound/lip-synch problems.
    • VLC Media played .AVI fine
    • VLC Played .mp3 OK via speakers horrible through phones(??? need more testing???)!

    Here is as much info as I know how to provide:

    http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=10...d0ebf0f5f9e7fd


    ~> speaker-test -Dplug:front -c2 -l5 -twav


    speaker-test 1.0.18

    Playback device is plug:front
    Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
    WAV file(s)
    Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
    Buffer size range from 64 to 262144
    Period size range from 32 to 131072
    Using max buffer size 262144
    Periods = 4
    Unable to set hw params for playback: Invalid argument
    Setting of hwparams failed: Invalid argument

    IE NO SOUND

    BUT:

    ~> speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav

    speaker-test 1.0.18

    Playback device is default
    Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
    WAV file(s)
    Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
    Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384
    Period size range from 1024 to 1024
    Using max buffer size 16384
    Periods = 4
    was set period_size = 1024
    was set buffer_size = 16384
    0 - Front Left
    1 - Front Right
    Time per period = 2.680656
    0 - Front Left
    1 - Front Right
    Time per period = 3.007916
    0 - Front Left
    1 - Front Right
    Time per period = 3.008121
    0 - Front Left
    1 - Front Right


    IE WORKS!


    ~> rpm -qa | grep alsa

    alsa-plugins-1.0.18-6.12
    alsa-firmware-1.0.17-1.42
    kalsatools-1.5.0-499.130
    alsa-oss-1.0.17-1.37
    alsa-1.0.18-8.12.1
    alsa-tools-1.0.18-1.13
    alsa-utils-1.0.18-6.4
    tsalsa-20080914-0.pm.1
    alsa-plugins-jack-1.0.18-6.12
    alsa-devel-1.0.18-8.12.1
    alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.18-6.12


    ~> rpm -qa | grep pulse

    libpulse-browse0-0.9.14-2.2.1
    libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-module-jack-0.9.14-2.2.1
    libpulse0-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-utils-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-lang-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.14-2.2.1
    alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.18-6.12
    libxine1-pulse-1.1.16.3-2.pm.5.9
    pulseaudio-0.9.14-2.2.1
    pulseaudio-module-lirc-0.9.14-2.2.1


    ~> rpm -q libasound2

    libasound2-1.0.18-8.12.1


    ~> uname -a

    Linux linux-oqc9 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux



    ~> cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

    options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
    # CvwD.+OF_NtUExp4:MCP61 High Definition Audio
    alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel


    ~> zypper lr (colon replaced by comma below in X11 to avoid an unwanted smileyface)

    # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
    ---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+--------
    1 | 11.1 | 11.1 | Yes | Yes
    2 | 11.1 - VideoLan | 11.1 - VideoLan | No | Yes
    3 | 20090614-123930 | 20090614-123930 | Yes | Yes
    4 | Libdvdcss repository | Libdvdcss repository | Yes | Yes
    5 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes
    6 | X11,XGL | X11,XGL | Yes | Yes
    7 | home_accAgon | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes | No
    8 | mozilla | mozilla | Yes | No
    9 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | No | Yes
    10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
    11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
    12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | Yes | Yes
    13 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | No | Yes
    14 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
    15 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
    16 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | Yes | Yes
    17 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes



    Surely with this degree of chaos, there must be a simple way of stripping out ANY and ALL references to ALSA, PULSE, eitra? and in fact ALL audio apps, libs, etc etc etc and simply letting YAST rebuild from scratch, starting with just ALSA and maybe judiciously adding in others as needs arise???? And that this would be better than attempting to solve all of the above glitches one by one?

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    Default Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    With regard to the flash no sound issues. Did you try removing the package: libflashsupport ?
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    Default Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    • Google video = no sound
    • You tube = no sound
    • BBC radio (live streaming ) = no sound
    • BBC audio (listen again streaming) = no sound
    This is likely a flash problem. Try caf4926's suggestion of removing libflashsupport.

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    • Headphones do not mute speakers
    This is likely because either (a) your PC's audio configuration was not properly autoprobe/autoconfigured at boot, or (b) you need an update that was incorporated in 1.0.19 or 1.0.21 of alsa: Search results - AlsaProject

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    • End or restart KDE session plays sounds
    Then your basic sound works, but we need to work on the headphone automute.

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    • Amarok does not play when using xine/autodetect
    • Amarok does not play when using xine/pulse audio
    • Amarok DOES play using xine/oss
    • Amarok DOES play using xine/ALSA; Speakers OK(ish), Headphones horrible (mp3)
    These read like codec problems to me.

    Possibly caused by your not installing the packman packaged amarok, amarok-xine, amarok-packman, libxine1, libxine1-codec and xine-ui. Its also possible you installed videolan or other packages (as you have IMHO WAY TOO MANY repositories) and its possible some of those have caused this. I always recommend ONLY 4 REPOS unless one is sufficiently advanced to be able to (a) detect the problems if an extra repos causes a problem and (b) fix the problem. I do not think that is the case (being able to detect/fix) here.

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    • mplayer fell over when playing an .avi, BUT:
    • mplayer played mp3 fine. via speakers but horrible through phones.
    • mplayer plays .flv ok but with sound/lip-synch problems.
    From where did you get mplayer? avi is a wrapper. That does not mean anything to say "avi". What codec inside the avi ? Did you try other avi files with different codecs?

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    • VLC Media played .AVI fine
    • VLC Played .mp3 OK via speakers horrible through phones(??? need more testing???)!
    Again, to say 'avi' does not mean much. What codec in the "avi" ?

    OK, so I note an AD1986A hardware audio codec on your PC, which is running 32-bit opensuse-11.1 with the 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae kernel.

    Its also possible the 2.6.27.29 kernel update, broke the headphone/speaker automute behaviour of alsa, which for your PC was built for 2.6.27.9 of alsa.

    To fix the headphone problem, you could first try to force a model option specific to your PC's hardware audio codec upon boot. For the AD1986A, according to the alsa-configuraton.txt file for 1.0.18 of alsa, the following options are available/listed (with a description):
    Code:
    	AD1986A
    	  6stack	6-jack, separate surrounds (default)
    	  3stack	3-stack, shared surrounds
    	  laptop	2-channel only (FSC V2060, Samsung M50)
    	  laptop-eapd	2-channel with EAPD (Samsung R65, ASUS A6J)
    	  laptop-automute 2-channel with EAPD and HP-automute (Lenovo N100)
    	  ultra		2-channel with EAPD (Samsung Ultra tablet PC)
    So lets say you wish to try forcing one of these options. Start, for example, with the option "6stack". To force that, open the file /etc/modprobe.d/sound file and add a line to the start of that file (saving the change) such that it looks like:
    Code:
    options snd-hda-intel model=6stack
    options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
    # CvwD.+OF_NtUExp4:MCP61 High Definition Audio
    alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
    and then restart your alsa sound driver by typing su -c 'rcalsasound restart' and enter root password when prompted, restart your mixer (kmix in kde or alsamixer in gnome) and test your sound.

    Note to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/sound file
    • in gnome type: gnomesu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/sound
    • in kde type: kdesu 'kwrite /etc/modprobe.d/sound'
    and enter root password when prompted and save the change.

    Test your sound.

    If "6stack" does not work, pick another option from the list (say "3stack") and edit that file again, replacing "6stack" with "3stack". Restart alsa. restart your mixer, and test. Do that for each option, ONE at a TIME, until you find one that works.

    If none work, post here, and we can investigate the other two possibilities:
    • possibly the update to 2.6.27.29 broke the automute, or
    • possibly you need a newer alsa version for your PC's hardware


    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    ~> zypper lr (colon replaced by comma below in X11 to avoid an unwanted smileyface)
    what would have been more helpful is: "zypper lr -d " .... I do not know precisely what repos all of those are without the URL.

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
    ---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+--------
    1 | 11.1 | 11.1 | Yes | Yes
    2 | 11.1 - VideoLan | 11.1 - VideoLan | No | Yes
    3 | 20090614-123930 | 20090614-123930 | Yes | Yes
    4 | Libdvdcss repository | Libdvdcss repository | Yes | Yes
    5 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes
    6 | X11,XGL | X11,XGL | Yes | Yes
    7 | home_accAgon | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes | No
    8 | mozilla | mozilla | Yes | No
    9 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | No | Yes
    10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
    11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
    12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | Yes | Yes
    13 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | No | Yes
    14 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
    15 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
    16 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | Yes | Yes
    17 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes
    I recommend you remove all those repos in red. IMHO you are just one update away from totally borking your system.

    You also have two OSS, and two Non-OSS. Only one is needed. You should IMHO remove one of each. I also can not tell where your "update" is. That needs to be added.

    As noted, if you are not careful at this stage, you could end up doing something that will be difficult to recovery from. Those repos are IMHO a recipe for disaster.

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    Default Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    wow - what a comprehensive response from oldcpu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    I recommend you remove all those repos in red. IMHO you are just one update away from totally borking your system.
    .
    Correction to the above, ... assuming "repo-update" is your update repos, then leave that repos in place.
    Code:
    17 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes

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    Default Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    Thank-you so much for the advice guys and girls, I have not had time to do any work today, or even to fully digest the reply(ies) because the machine was needed by someone else, but I will have a bash as soon as poss. As someone else was using the machine I took the opportunity to do a few tests in MS Windows, it seems that the headphone not muting could well be a connection/hardware issue, as it is the same there...
    I had already realised that my REPO state is a shambles having read other posts on the forum, by oldCPU and Caf among others. Time for a tidy-up!

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    Cool Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    Quick update....
    Taking note of what Caf said and with which oldCPU agreed:
    With regard to the flash no sound issues. Did you try removing the package: libflashsupport ?
    So; I did:
    Code:
    ~> su -c 'zypper rm libflashsupport'
    Password:
    Retrieving repository '20090614-123930' metadata [done]
    Building repository '20090614-123930' cache [done]
    Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata [done]
    Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache [done]
    Retrieving repository 'openSUSE:Factory:Contrib' metadata [done]
    Building repository 'openSUSE:Factory:Contrib' cache [done]
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    The following package is going to be REMOVED:
      libflashsupport
    
    
    After the operation, 20.0 K will be freed.
    Continue? [YES/no]: y
    Removing libflashsupport-1.2-4.20 [done]
    And................... WOO HOOOOT!
    For the first time ever the kids can use YouTube & googlevideo without firing up WindowsXP!!!
    RESULT!

    PS I have no clue what the repos. in red italics does or provides or even why I put it there in the first place! Next job, "TIDY UP THEM REPOS!!"


    A BIG thank-you to oldcpu, Caf, and all others who have offered help!

    ps here is current zypper lr -d if anyone interested....

    ~> zypper lr -d
    Code:
    #  | Alias                    | Name                         | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type
    | URI                                                                                 | Service
    ---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------
    +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
    1  | 11.1                     | 11.1                         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1                                            |
    2  | 11.1 - VideoLan          | 11.1 - VideoLan              | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                            |
    3  | 20090614-123930          | 20090614-123930              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | ftp://download.videolan.org/%2fpub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                          |
    4  | Libdvdcss repository     | Libdvdcss repository         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | NONE
    | http://suse.linuxin.dk/repo/11.1/                                                   |
    5  | Packman Repository       | Packman Repository           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/                                         |
    6  | X11:XGL                  | X11:XGL                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_11.1/                   |
    7  | home_accAgon             | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/accAgon/openSUSE_11.1/              |
    8  | mozilla                  | mozilla                      | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1/                    |
    9  | openSUSE 11.1-0          | openSUSE 11.1-0              | No      | Yes     |   10     | yast2
    | iso:///?iso=su.iso&url=hd:///?device=/dev/sda1&filesystem=auto                      |
    10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss    | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss                         |
    11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss        | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss                             |
    12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.1/ |
    13 | repo-debug               | openSUSE-11.1-Debug          | No      | Yes     |  100     | NONE                                                   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                      |
    14 | repo-non-oss             | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/                        |
    15 | repo-oss                 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                            |
    16 | repo-source              | openSUSE-11.1-Source         | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                     |
    17 | repo-update              | openSUSE-11.1-Update         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/

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    Default Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    Another update!

    I can now listen to live streamed and listen again streams from the BBC!!!!!!!


    WTF did libflashsupport DO???
    Anyway thanks again!

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    Default Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    WTF did libflashsupport DO???
    It's a library interface for flash-player.

    From YaST is says:
    libflashsupport - Additional support for Flash-based applications
    Optional Library Interfaces for Adobe Flash Player

    • pulseaudio
    • ESD
    • OpenSSL

    Supportability: unknown
    But it seems to mess up audio for some. I have it without issue. IIRC most users I have "helped" with this are _64, does this apply to you?
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    Default Re: Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    here is current zypper lr -d if anyone interested....

    ~> zypper lr -d
    Code:
    #  | Alias                    | Name                         | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type
    | URI                                                                                 | Service
    ---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------
    +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
    1  | 11.1                     | 11.1                         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1                                            |
    2  | 11.1 - VideoLan          | 11.1 - VideoLan              | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                            |
    3  | 20090614-123930          | 20090614-123930              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | ftp://download.videolan.org/%2fpub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                          |
    4  | Libdvdcss repository     | Libdvdcss repository         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | NONE
    | http://suse.linuxin.dk/repo/11.1/                                                   |
    5  | Packman Repository       | Packman Repository           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/                                         |
    6  | X11:XGL                  | X11:XGL                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_11.1/                   |
    7  | home_accAgon             | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/accAgon/openSUSE_11.1/              |
    8  | mozilla                  | mozilla                      | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
    | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1/                    |
    9  | openSUSE 11.1-0          | openSUSE 11.1-0              | No      | Yes     |   10     | yast2
    | iso:///?iso=su.iso&url=hd:///?device=/dev/sda1&filesystem=auto                      |
    10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss    | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss                         |
    11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss        | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss                             |
    12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.1/ |
    13 | repo-debug               | openSUSE-11.1-Debug          | No      | Yes     |  100     | NONE                                                   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                      |
    14 | repo-non-oss             | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/                        |
    15 | repo-oss                 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                            |
    16 | repo-source              | openSUSE-11.1-Source         | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                     |
    17 | repo-update              | openSUSE-11.1-Update         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/
    Keep repos 5, 14, 15, 17. Remove / disable the rest. They are not nominally needed. They can be enabled for special updates only if you have specific reasons and understand the risks/implications of enabling them.

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