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    I am using Suse 11.1 and KDE 3.5.10.

    After a reboot and logging in as root I have the speaker test and MPlayer with sound working but not Xine or Flash on Firefox. By an 'rcalsasound restart' I get all working for root. I can live with this. I have 2 users, one of which has the sound working on everything and the other only works for the speaker test and MPlayer - Xine and Flash have no sound. I suspect that I have screwed up a setting somewhere but I don't know where to look. Both users are members of the audio group.

    Any suggestions gratefully received.

    Schrod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrod View Post
    I am using Suse 11.1 and KDE 3.5.10.

    After a reboot and logging in as root .......
    Living dangerous because of sound?
    SDB:Login as root - openSUSE
    Henk van Velden

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    > Any suggestions gratefully received.

    never log into KDE as root, ever..

    it is never the way to solve ANY problem...especially not a sound
    problem....logging in as root CAUSES more problems than you can sort out..

    http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebas...uide/root.html also
    says not to...and, the link Henk gave you tells you also, as well as
    how to invoke root powers safely, when necessary..

    --
    platinum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrod View Post
    I am using Suse 11.1 and KDE 3.5.10.

    After a reboot and logging in as root I have the speaker test and MPlayer with sound working but not Xine or Flash on Firefox. By an 'rcalsasound restart' I get all working for root. I can live with this. I have 2 users, one of which has the sound working on everything and the other only works for the speaker test and MPlayer - Xine and Flash have no sound. I suspect that I have screwed up a setting somewhere but I don't know where to look. Both users are members of the audio group.

    Any suggestions gratefully received.

    Schrod.
    For flash, try removing libflashsupport.

    For xine, install xine-ui, and then go to settings (after first adjusting xine settings to "master of the universe" and select alsa as the output audio model :



    Note, depending on the order in which users access the sound, and dependant on what output audio model is selected, one may have the audio device locked so the 2nd can not access ...

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    Thanks to oldcpu for your suggestions, and to platinum and hcw for their concern for my security.

    Unfortunately the suggestions have not changed the situation. I have one user with all sound OK and the other with Xine and Flash not working. This is still the case after a reboot and logging in to the problem user first.

    I tried copying the config file from the .Xine directory of the working user to the non working user without success. I noticed that this directory in the working user has a socket called session.1 and the other user does not. (I don't know what a socket is so I have no idea if this is relevant!)

    I would welcome any further suggestions.

    Schrod

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrod View Post
    I would welcome any further suggestions.

    Schrod
    I confess I am from Missouri on this one.

    Please advise what output audio module the applications of each user is using, that causes them not to share the sound. ie list application with output module. List that for EACH application that uses the audio. Without that its not easy to make any sort of informed assessment.

    Please also confirm, that when booting the PC, that it makes no differnce as to what user you go to first, ie does the sound always work with the First user and not the second, or does the problem always occur with user Joe but never with user Bob ? (using the names Joe/Bob as arbitrary examples).

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    Please pardon my ignorance but how do I find the output audio module for the applications?

    Regarding users, I can confirm that the problem is always with user J and not D, regardless of the order that I visit first. I should add, perhaps, that I did have sound working on both users until a few weeks ago but it stopped for most programs on just one user. It may have followed some recent security updates but I can't be sure. MPlayer seems to be the only working sound program on J.

    In case it helps here is some more info:
    cat /proc/asound/version
    Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.17.

    cat /proc/asound/modules
    0 snd_emu10k1
    1 snd_via82xx

    cat /proc/asound/cards
    0 [Audigy ]: Audigy - Audigy 1 [SB0090]
    Audigy 1 [SB0090] (rev.3, serial:0x531102) at 0xb800, irq 18
    1 [V8235 ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235
    VIA 8235 with ALC650E at 0xe000, irq 22

    http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=89...d1fe8ac6d539d6

    Thanks for your help

    Schrod

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    I noticed that this directory in the working user has a socket called session.1 and the other user does not. (I don't know what a socket is so I have no idea if this is relevant!)
    This could well be relevant. From your working user directory, post the output of the following

    ls -l ~/.xine
    Maybe this session file is the problem.

    You could try renaming .xine directory to .xine.old then see if other users have sound. (I'm not sure whether you will need to restart desktop or not). In fact, you could rename (or delete) the .xine directories in all /home/<user> directories and see if correct operation is restored.

    BTW, I wanted to know if you're using KDE 4 or Gnome desktop? If the former, do you have it configured for each user to start with an empty session? (Configure Desktop > Advanced > Session Manager)

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    Here is the output requested from the working user (d):
    >ls -l ~/.xine
    total 64
    -rw-r--r-- 1 d users 23859 2009-09-11 21:01 catalog.cache
    -rw-r--r-- 1 d users 20291 2009-09-11 21:02 config
    -rw-r--r-- 1 d users 12535 2009-09-11 21:02 keymap
    srwxr-xr-x 1 d users 0 2009-09-02 20:16 session.1
    -rw-r--r-- 1 d users 131 2009-09-11 21:02 xine-ui_old_playlist.tox


    I have tried renameing the .xine directories for both users as suggested and still have the same symptoms after a reboot.

    I am using Suse 11.1 and KDE 3.5.10. I had both users set to restore previous setting but have changed them to start with an empty session with no change.

    I can't help thinking that the fact that MPlayer works on user j when all other sound using programs that I have tried are silent should give a clue. There is no sound from Xine, Kaffeine, Amarok, SMPlayer or Flash on Firefox or Konqueror

    Thanks for the suggestions.

    Schrod

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    I can't help thinking that the fact that MPlayer works on user j when all other sound using programs that I have tried are silent should give a clue.
    It does, but it could be helpful if you can provide this info for each user account:

    Please advise what output audio module the applications of each user is using, that causes them not to share the sound. ie list application with output module. List that for EACH application that uses the audio. Without that its not easy to make any sort of informed assessment.

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