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Thread: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

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    Default Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    I know it sounds stupid to use a older version, but it's my backup "server". (i have also an OpenSuse 10.3 in use)
    i have the following problem...
    10 minutes ago the 8.2 Suse rebooted while i was searching from a win_XP ,achine in my backups.
    after the reboot the files backup folder are gone with the wind.

    the strange thing is /home/backup/backup is still there, but the files in the last folder are all gone..
    150Gb of files are gone.

    is it possible to recover these files???
    or are all my backups lost?

    (i know its better to burn all the files on DVD or CDRom, but i do this ones a year.)

    can anyone help me out please?

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    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    the stange thing is, when i look in the last folder's preferences, it sayes: Free space: 8.1 GB/18.3 GB (56% Used)
    why can i not see the files?

    PS with 150 Gb i meant 15.0 GB

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    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    <> why can i not see the files?

    what are you looking with?

    are you logged into the SUSE box with a monitor and keyboard?
    or, remote from your game box?

    using ssh and ls, or what?

    and, you said the "8.2 Suse rebooted while i was searching" does that
    mean it spontaneously, uncommanded, just rebooted...has it done that
    before? or does it ofen/ever reboot when you access it?

    is the machine as old as the software? if so, you probably have a
    hardware gotch'a in progress...flaky power or, heat or something..

    if it were me, and if it is running i'd burn all that i could see to
    CD/DVD *before* i did anything else..

    and, i _guess_ the data you can't see is still there but the disk's
    file allocation table has been corrupted...

    i'd NOT fiddle around with it a lot until after saving off to
    somewhere safe all that i could..

    i wonder, how full is/was that disk?

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    platinum NNTP User

    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    STOP

    afterthought: if it is a corrupted allocation table, as mentioned in
    my just posted, then you need to MINIMIZE writes to that disk..

    i mean, if the table *is* corrupted (and therefore reporting a certain
    section of the disk as empty, when it is not) then SUSE *will* write
    to it even if it is actually that can't be seen backup..

    and, the fuller the disk, the more likely it will overwrite..

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    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    On Mon September 7 2009 04:36 pm, richard klinky wrote:

    >
    > the stange thing is, when i look in the last folder's preferences, it
    > sayes: Free space: 8.1 GB/18.3 GB (56% Used)
    > why can i not see the files?
    >
    >

    ricard;

    What file system is on the disk? reiserfs? You should run a file check
    utility for what ever filesystem is on the broken disk. For reiserfs it is
    reiserfsck, other file systems have there own check/repair command. Details
    can be found in the manual entry for the check program that applies to your
    file system. You can not repair a mounted file system, so if this is the
    root partition you need to boot to a rescue drive before repairing.
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    P. V.
    "We're all in this together, I'm pulling for you." Red Green

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    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    Ok when i look in the file /home/backup/backup i do that with the linux machine where the files are savesd to.
    using keyboard, and monitor of the same machine.

    this is the first time that the Suse 8.2 machine rebooted all by itself. without a give command for rebooting.

    i was om my Win XP machine searching in the files for a older file.
    the search on the windows machine showed me that the network station was lost.
    i heared a biep, and i turnen on the monitor of my 2 linux machines.
    the 10.3 was on, the 8.2 was rebooting.
    after te reboot i logged in and than i took a look in the files by using Quickbrowser.
    i did this om the 8.2 machine.
    and also in the konsole i do not see any files in /home/backup/backup/ .


    the suse 8.2 machine is a PII 400Mhz. ( i know; a oldie )

    i did not do anything with the file, i only took a look in yast -> hardware, and both HDD's are available
    i remember the my settings om the 10.3, the Home dir is on the second HDD. but for the 8.2 i can't remeber.
    how can i check this?


    i also do not know anymore what file system suse installed on 8.2 (to long ago and it was the first time ever installing linux )

    but i think it's the standard file system.

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    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    I've never tried to recover a linux partition with Linux tools, but I agree its important to minimize all access to that partition.

    IMHO if the data is important, one should buy a backup empty drive that is equal or larger in size, and then immediately clone the old drive to the newly purchased drive, to have a "snapshot" of the contents.

    And then use something like testdisk to recover the contents:
    PackMan :: Package details for testdisk

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    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    Probably reiserfs. If your machine won't stay up, perhaps you should move the disks to another machine to mount them R/O and recover the files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken_yap View Post
    Probably reiserfs. If your machine won't stay up, perhaps you should move the disks to another machine to mount them R/O and recover the files.
    how can i check the file system?

    The machine is since yesterday on, it did not rebooted or turned off...


    the mounting on a other machine... is that linux or windows machine where i have to move it to?

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    Default Re: Suse 8.2 Samba problem

    When i look (with Konqueror) in /home/backup/ i see the folder backup wih the folder icon, BUT on the folder icon is a plug icon (plug like the 110-200 Volt plug)

    what does that icon mean?

    * i'm realy sorry when i ask those "stupid" questions.
    but my friend who installed with me suse 8.2 died 2 years ago (to young) and he had the lunix knowledge.

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