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    Default Yast UI Improvements

    Using kde4 Factory OS 11.1

    Did you notice the UI has improved and that annoying toggle in Software Repos has gone (where, when you clicked to select/highlight a repo it toggled it on/off)

    Nicely done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    Using kde4 Factory OS 11.1

    Did you notice the UI has improved and that annoying toggle in Software Repos has gone (where, when you clicked to select/highlight a repo it toggled it on/off)

    Nicely done.
    Ahhh ... more specifically, "YaST Software Management UI Improvements".

    Its good to read about. I've read many rants about this. ... hopefully this will show our user base that some criticisms are listened to.

    I confess I don't encounter "annoyance" in any openSUSE version as I am one of the "black sheep" who still use "Smart Package Manager" instead of YaST Software Management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Ahhh ... more specifically, "YaST Software Management UI Improvements".

    Its good to read about. I've read many rants about this. ... hopefully this will show our user base that some criticisms are listened to.
    It's good news. Maybe they listened to criticisms made here, but I suspect they listened more to rants/comments from suse devs, or ex-devs possibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    ... still use "Smart Package Manager" instead of YaST Software Management.
    Hi oldcpu,

    Do you see any advantage in using it over Yast, or is it just habit? I ask because I started with yast and as far as I recall never used anything else (not even cmdline zipper), although I've read about smart, rug, synaptics, etc.

    Yast SM was a pain in 10.x due to slowness, had to tweak it, but not anymore.

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    I used smart back in 10 and 10.1 and still installed it as backup thru 10.2
    But now I have no use for it, partly because Yast is so much better with zypper and partly because now I can get myself out of a mess without a UI
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    Quote Originally Posted by brunomcl View Post
    Do you see any advantage in using it over Yast, or is it just habit? I ask because I started with yast and as far as I recall never used anything else (not even cmdline zipper), although I've read about smart, rug, synaptics, etc.

    Yast SM was a pain in 10.x due to slowness, had to tweak it, but not anymore.
    Zypper has IMHO superior dependency resolution that smart, which is surprising given smart's main purpose was to have superior dependency resolution. Its easier to add and remove repositories with zypper.

    Smart has a nicer gui. Smart will nicely list the description of a program before it is installed, which is not as well implemented in the zypper/yast combination.

    Smart gives a better indication of the status of programs as they are being installed than zypper/yast.

    Smart gives a better display of installed programs (IMHO) and it gives a better display of programs that have updates that have not been installed yet.

    One has to be much much more careful with smart, to avoid mixing 32-bit and 64-bit applications.

    I use both smart and zypper/yast, although I think it fair to say I use:
    • smart 90% of the time
    • zypper - 7 % of the time
    • yast - 2 % of the time
    • rpm - 1 % of the time
    Those being estimates of my own use, and not hard fast figures.

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    • smart 90% of the time
    • zypper - 7 % of the time
    • yast - 2 % of the time
    • rpm - 1 % of the time
    I'm glad that added up to 100%
    Guess you are pretty 'smart'
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