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    Default Instable sound on 11.1

    Hi (oldcpu)

    I have a relatively new hardware:

    FTS CELSIUS W370 E80+, iQ45
    Grundeinheit: Systemboard D2817, Intel iQ45 Chipsatz
    Audio (Realtek ALC663),
    Intel Core2 Quad Q9550

    When I installed 11.1 (64-bit) with KDE 4.1 I had sound
    (flash, vlc but not with amarok).

    After three days sound suddenly stopped working in the afternoon.

    I tried a few things, amongst others an alsa update
    Alsa-update - openSUSE

    It works with 11.2M6.

    Now I went back to 11.1 - currently with KDE 3.5.10

    Things are very unstable here.
    1) Sometimes it works I press edit in yast/sound/edit -> restart sound system
    2) Sometimes everything works (amarok/flash) then suddenly it stops
    3) After playing around (alsaconf ...) I can hear a test sound in yast/sound
    4) The kmix has always the red butto with a white cross and I cannot
    condigure channels
    5) Also yast/sound/channel has nothing to select.
    6) Once I had a intel mixer(?) with a loudspeaker symbol in the task bar.
    This one worked but I have no idea how it popped up, it's gone after
    I had to reboot the system. Funny enough it said "volume 0%" but it worked.

    Currently I get:


    # speaker-test -Dplug:front -c2 -l5 -twav

    speaker-test 1.0.21

    Playback device is plug:front
    Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
    WAV file(s)
    ALSA lib pcm.c:2211snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.front
    Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory

    and

    # speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav

    speaker-test 1.0.21

    Playback device is default
    Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
    WAV file(s)
    ALSA lib pulse.c:229pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused


    but two days before it worked ...

    For help I'm really thankfull!!

    Fabian


    Here is the data (sorry about all the stuff)

    rpm -qa | grep alsa
    alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-trace-1.0.20.20090823_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.20-18.5
    alsa-utils-1.0.21-10.1
    alsa-oss-1.0.17-25.8
    alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.20.20090821_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-driver-kmp-trace-1.0.20.20090824_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-1.0.21-48.1
    alsa-docs-1.0.20-44.1
    alsa-plugins-1.0.21-19.1
    alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.17-1.37
    alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-default-1.0.20.20090821_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-firmware-1.0.20-2.1


    fwein@eamc061:~> cat /proc/asound/version
    Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20-git20090821.
    Compiled on Aug 21 2009 for kernel 2.6.27.29-0.1-default (SMP).

    eamc061:/var/log # uname -a
    Linux eamc061 2.6.27.29-0.1-default #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    Here some data from /var/log/messages


    Sep 4 13:07:42 eamc061 kernel: HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
    Sep 4 13:07:42 eamc061 kernel: HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
    Sep 4 13:07:43 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:699: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x300f0000
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1382: Codec #3 probe error; disabling it...
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: hda_codec: ALC663: BIOS auto-probing.
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3881: autoconfig: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3885: speaker_outs=1 (0x17/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3889: hp_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3890: mono: mono_out=0x0
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3893: dig-out=0x1e/0x0
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3901: inputs: mic=0x18, fmic=0x19, line=0x1a, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1280: realtek: No valid SSID, checking pincfg 0x4005c603 for NID 0x1d
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1296: realtek: Enabling init ASM_ID=0xc603 CODEC_ID=10ec0663
    Sep 4 13:07:44 eamc061 kernel: input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/input/input8
    Sep 4 13:07:49 eamc061 kernel: pulseaudio[13595]: segfault at f2e41b90 ip 00000000f2e41b90 sp 00000000ffb9b14c error 14 in pulse-shm-442114234[f2e59000+4001000]
    Sep 4 13:07:50 eamc061 kernel: HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A disabled
    Sep 4 13:07:50 eamc061 kernel: snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `position'
    Sep 4 13:07:58 eamc061 pulseaudio[14588]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.


    some data from dmesg

    HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
    HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:699: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x300f0000
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1382: Codec #3 probe error; disabling it...
    hda_codec: ALC663: BIOS auto-probing.
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3881: autoconfig: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3885: speaker_outs=1 (0x17/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3889: hp_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3890: mono: mono_out=0x0
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3893: dig-out=0x1e/0x0
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3901: inputs: mic=0x18, fmic=0x19, line=0x1a, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1280: realtek: No valid SSID, checking pincfg 0x4005c603 for NID 0x1d
    ALSA /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1296: realtek: Enabling init ASM_ID=0xc603 CODEC_ID=10ec0663
    input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/input/input8
    pulseaudio[13595]: segfault at f2e41b90 ip 00000000f2e41b90 sp 00000000ffb9b14c error 14 in pulse-shm-442114234[f2e59000+4001000]
    HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A disabled
    snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `position'

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Quote Originally Posted by road-movie View Post
    Here is the data (sorry about all the stuff)

    rpm -qa | grep alsa
    alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-trace-1.0.20.20090823_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.20-18.5
    alsa-utils-1.0.21-10.1
    alsa-oss-1.0.17-25.8
    alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.20.20090821_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-driver-kmp-trace-1.0.20.20090824_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-1.0.21-48.1
    alsa-docs-1.0.20-44.1
    alsa-plugins-1.0.21-19.1
    alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.17-1.37
    alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-default-1.0.20.20090821_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-firmware-1.0.20-2.1


    eamc061:/var/log # uname -a
    Linux eamc061 2.6.27.29-0.1-default #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    The 3 rpms I highlighted in RED should be removed. They WILL cause problems. You probably should also force a re-install of alsa-driver-kmp-default (in green)AFTER removing those 3 rpms. Reboot, and then test.

    Any results you have before that is questionable.

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    The 3 rpms I highlighted in RED should be removed. They WILL cause problems. You probably should also force a re-install of alsa-driver-kmp-default (in green)AFTER removing those 3 rpms. Reboot, and then test.

    Any results you have before that is questionable.

    I removed the three rpms and and a re-install:

    zypper ar Index of /repositories/multimedia:/audio:/KMP/openSUSE_11.1_Update multimedia
    Adding repository 'multimedia' [done]
    Repository 'multimedia' successfully added
    Enabled: Yes
    Autorefresh: No
    URI: Index of /repositories/multimedia:/audio:/KMP/openSUSE_11.1_Update

    eamc061:/home/fwein # zypper install alsa-driver-kmp-default
    Building repository 'multimedia' cache [done]
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Resolving package dependencies...

    The following package is going to be upgraded:
    alsa-driver-kmp-default


    Overall download size: 9.4 M. After the operation, additional 14.0 K will be used.
    Continue? [YES/no]:
    Retrieving package alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.21.20090904_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1.x86_64 (1/1), 9.4 M (63.2 M unpacked)
    Retrieving: alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.21.20090904_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1.x86_64.rpm [done (2.3 M/s)]
    Installing: alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.21.20090904_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1 [done]
    Additional rpm output:
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-alsa.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-alsa.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-alsa.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/staging/go7007/go7007.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    26136 blocks
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-alsa.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-alsa.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-alsa.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/staging/go7007/go7007.ko needs unknown symbol snd_card_new
    26136 blocks

    I can play the test sound in yast, but not with speaker-test.

    rpm -qa | grep alsa
    alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.20-18.5
    alsa-utils-1.0.21-10.1
    alsa-oss-1.0.17-25.8
    alsa-1.0.21-48.1
    alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.21.20090904_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-docs-1.0.20-44.1
    alsa-plugins-1.0.21-19.1
    alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.17-1.37
    alsa-firmware-1.0.20-2.1

    uname -a
    Linux eamc061 2.6.27.29-0.1-default #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Quote Originally Posted by road-movie View Post
    I can play the test sound in yast, but not with speaker-test.
    Ok, ... thats interesting, it plays in YaST where a user running the YaST test has by "defacto" root permissions ... Did you try all 3 speaker tests noted here:
    SDB:AudioTroubleshooting - openSUSE - how to test your sond
    (ie the two speaker-tests and the aplay test from the alsa site).

    Also, in the terminal, try the speaker tests with root permissions and see if that makes a difference.

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Ok, ... thats interesting, it plays in YaST where a user running the YaST test has by "defacto" root permissions ... Did you try all 3 speaker tests noted here:
    SDB:AudioTroubleshooting - openSUSE - how to test your sond
    (ie the two speaker-tests and the aplay test from the alsa site).

    Also, in the terminal, try the speaker tests with root permissions and see if that makes a difference.
    If sound works with root permissions, follow the audio troubleshooting guide guidance here in step-6: SDB:AudioTroubleshooting - openSUSE - how to fix a permissions problem

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    I run all three tests as root and they fail (see below).
    As user I now don't get the error but the output seems ok
    (I'm at home and have only ssh access). I'll check on monday.

    Thanks so far!

    Fabian

    eamc061:/home/fwein # speaker-test -Dplug:front -c2 -l5 -twav
    speaker-test 1.0.21
    Playback device is plug:front
    Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
    WAV file(s)
    ALSA lib pcm.c:2211snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.front
    Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory

    eamc061:/home/fwein # speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav
    speaker-test 1.0.21
    Playback device is default
    Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
    WAV file(s)
    ALSA lib pulse.c:229pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused

    Playback open error: -111,Connection refused

    eamc061:/home/fwein # aplay -vv somefile.wav
    ALSA lib pulse.c:229pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
    aplay: main:608: audio open error: Connection refused

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Quote Originally Posted by road-movie View Post
    ALSA lib pulse.c:229pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
    aplay: main:608: audio open error: Connection refused
    Pulse Audio ... hmmm ... If you do not get that error as a regular user, I would not expect to see it as root.

    Are you still using KDE-3.5.10 ?

    If so, try going to Configure Desktop > Sound and Multimedia > Sound System > Hardware > Select the Audio Device and instead of "autodetect" try "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture".

    ... you DID get sound in YaST Test? Correct?

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    ...
    Are you still using KDE-3.5.10 ?

    ... you DID get sound in YaST Test? Correct?
    I use KDE 3.5.10 also I installed it only 3 days ago and KDE 4.1 is still on the system.

    The stuff is unstable. Sometimes all works, then nothing at
    all or only the sound test in yast.

    It helps to restart the sound system via yast (press "edit"
    but don't change anything then "next") to hear the test sound. And this afternoon it was definetly that the test sound worked but not speaker-test (I believe also not for user).

    Now as the command line test run for user, maybe all is working again. More on monday.

    P.S.: I'm really looking forward to 11.2 and have hopefully no more audio problems!! With M6 I had
    a debug problem with C++ via Eclipse. The first breakpoint worked but step over/into had the same effect as resume.
    I didn't had the time to look at it closely enough to submit
    a bug report - but I really hope that this won't turn out
    to be a bug in 11.2 ...

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Quote Originally Posted by road-movie View Post
    I use KDE 3.5.10 also I installed it only 3 days ago and KDE 4.1 is still on the system.
    There are still things that can be tried. So I think it is premature to think the sound can not be made stable on 11.1 with KDE-3.5.10.

    For example, rather than go to YaST, with root permissions type:
    Code:
    rcalsasound restart
    and then test your sound with the sound tests I provided. Does that work?

    Another example, your aalsa-driver-kmp-default is version 1.0.20. But there is now a version 1.0.21 available. You have a mix of 1.0.20/1.0.21 and IMHO it would be better to just update all to 1.0.21 per the guidance here (ie follow both):

    Another example, .. You noted your PC has an ALC663. Its possible the autoprobe of your hardware is not working properly at boot and it may be necessary to force a specific model option. The HD-Audio-Models.txt file has a list of possible model options to apply to one's /etc/modprobe.d/sound file (in 11.1) one at a time:
    Code:
    ALC662/663/272
    ==============
      3stack-dig	3-stack (2-channel) with SPDIF
      3stack-6ch	 3-stack (6-channel)
      3stack-6ch-dig 3-stack (6-channel) with SPDIF
      6stack-dig	 6-stack with SPDIF
      lenovo-101e	 Lenovo laptop
      eeepc-p701	ASUS Eeepc P701
      eeepc-ep20	ASUS Eeepc EP20
      ecs		ECS/Foxconn mobo
      m51va		ASUS M51VA
      g71v		ASUS G71V
      h13		ASUS H13
      g50v		ASUS G50V
      asus-mode1	ASUS
      asus-mode2	ASUS
      asus-mode3	ASUS
      asus-mode4	ASUS
      asus-mode5	ASUS
      asus-mode6	ASUS
      dell		Dell with ALC272
      dell-zm1	Dell ZM1 with ALC272
      samsung-nc10	Samsung NC10 mini notebook
      auto		auto-config reading BIOS (default)

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    Default Re: Instable sound on 11.1

    Hi,

    bad news:

    1) I upgraded, now it looks like:rpm -qa | grep alsa
    alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.21.20090907_2.6.27.29_0.1-1.1
    alsa-oss-1.0.17-25.9
    alsa-1.0.21-48.1
    alsa-tools-1.0.21-4.2
    alsa-docs-1.0.20-44.1
    alsa-plugins-1.0.21-19.1
    alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.17-1.37
    alsa-firmware-1.0.20-2.1
    alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.21-14.2
    alsa-utils-1.0.21-13.1

    --> then I did a restart

    all speaker tests as root fail.

    As user:
    speaker-test -Dplug:front -c2 -l5 -twav
    ALSA lib pcm.c:2211snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.front
    Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory

    speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav
    and
    aplay -vv /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav
    look good but I don't hear something.

    I hear only via yast test sound, afer I restarted the sound system there.

    rcalsasound restart
    Shutting down sound driver done
    Starting sound driver: hda-intelFATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.27.29-0.1-default/updates/alsa/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

    dmesg brings:

    HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A disabled
    snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `position'

    The problem with the model option is, that I don't know what to choose.

    I assume that it is a mixer problem as I don't see any channels.

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