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    pgollum NNTP User

    Default Installing 11.1 on an old pc

    Hello there, I'm a new convert. I'm attempting to install opensuse 11.1 onto an etower 633ids from a KDE4 Live Cd. I believe I am having troubles setting the xserver. Instead of booting to the KDE gui, I am sent to a login. (I haven't set a login or password yet). I type "Linux" and get to a prompt. From here I can switch to SU and run SaX2. A gui will then load and I can modify my graphic settings. Upon exiting I type KDE to load the gui interface to begin installation. Nothing ever loads, I get a white screen and a mouse cursor. I've done a sum check after downloading the iso and from the live cd. Both pass. I've also searched the forms but to be honest the linux terminology still confuses me. So I'm not sure what to do now. Do I have a hardware problem? or am I just ignorant to the ways of the linux? Many thanks! Specs are below...

    CPU: Intel Celeron 633 Mhz
    Memory: 191 MB
    Video: APG 2x
    HDD: 15Gb
    Floppy: DVD 2x

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    Default Re: Installing 11.1 on an old pc

    At the initial boot screen, look at the bottom of the screen and you will see that the F1 - Fn keys allow you to change the setup options. If you choose 800x600 resolution (F3 I think) and select failsafe mode, you should get a graphic login.

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    Default Re: Installing 11.1 on an old pc

    pgollum wrote:
    > Hello there, I'm a new convert. I'm attempting to install opensuse 11.1
    > onto an etower 633ids from a KDE4 Live Cd. I believe I am having
    > troubles setting the xserver. Instead of booting to the KDE gui, I am
    > sent to a login. (I haven't set a login or password yet). I type
    > "Linux" and get to a prompt. From here I can switch to SU and run SaX2.
    > A gui will then load and I can modify my graphic settings. Upon
    > exiting I type KDE to load the gui interface to begin installation.
    > Nothing ever loads, I get a white screen and a mouse cursor. I've done
    > a sum check after downloading the iso and from the live cd. Both pass.
    > I've also searched the forms but to be honest the linux terminology
    > still confuses me. So I'm not sure what to do now. Do I have a
    > hardware problem? or am I just ignorant to the ways of the linux? Many
    > thanks! Specs are below...
    >
    > CPU: Intel Celeron 633 Mhz
    > Memory: 191 MB
    > Video: APG 2x
    > HDD: 15Gb
    > Floppy: DVD 2x


    KDE needs a lot more than 191 MB of RAM. With swapping, it will run,
    but it will be painfully slow. I have an old laptop with 256 M that I
    last used with a GUI on SuSE 9.3. Now it is used as my server and X is
    not installed.

    Using XFCE as a window manager would help. Otherwise search for
    distros that are better suited to your hardware.

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    Default Re: Installing 11.1 on an old pc

    > CPU: Intel Celeron 633 Mhz
    > Memory: 191 MB
    > Video: APG 2x
    > HDD: 15Gb
    > Floppy: DVD 2x


    -WELCOME- to nose-ring free open source software!

    there is a vicious lie laid out by many (in and around Redmond
    Washington) that Linux runs like the wind on the tiny resourced
    machines of yesteryear...[they do that so when you try you are
    disappointed and frustrated]

    and some versions of Linux (like tiny, slim Puppy Linux) will run in
    the described machine...but, openSUSE 11.1 which is a couple of years
    newer and light years ahead of either Vista *or* Win7 certainly will
    not...

    sorry to break the news to you...but, for you continued Linux pleasure
    i urge you to either get some modern hardware or use a lighter Linux,
    like (i've not actually run any of these more than a few minutes, but
    i hear they might do what you need):

    - [try first!] Puppy Linux. <http://www.puppylinux.org/> Needs 64MB
    RAM for versions before 1.0.2. More recent versions need 128MB RAM and
    166MHZ CPU

    - Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/> (has Enlightenment window manager).
    Needs 100MHz CPU and 64MB of RAM for one of the older versions. More
    recent version needs a faster CPU and more RAM

    - DSL (D@mn Small Linux).<http://www.****smalllinux.org/> needs 16MB
    RAM on a fast 486 CPU. But that will be slow!! Better off with 64 MB
    RAM and a Pentium with 200MHZ CPU

    - Vector Linux. <http://vectorlinux.com/> Needs 32MB RAM and 166MHZ
    CPU. I suspect much more RAM is desireable.

    - AntiX 8.2 <http://antix.mepis.org/index.php/Main_Page> was just
    released. This will run in 128MB. It's based on
    MEPIS/Debian.

    -Crunchbang <http://crunchbanglinux.org/>

    -SliTaz <http://www.slitaz.org/>

    any of those will get you started in prying that nose ring out, but
    none will run KDE4 (i don't think...heck, i wouldn't KDE4 if i had a
    Cray...but, i do run KDE3)

    --
    platinum
    Give a hacker a fish and you feed him for a day.
    Teach man and you feed him for a lifetime.

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    Default Re: Installing 11.1 on an old pc

    I have an old test machine that has a bit faster celeron and 256 meg. I could no longer reinstall late versions of suse and had to use a net install. I did a zypper up often and sometimes zypper dup.

    It ran well until I got to 11.2 M6 and KDE4.3 and then it hit, not the wall, but the mud. It runs, but slowly. I was thinking about converting it to an opensuse education box with the Sugar DE. That is lightweight but still has suse 11.1 underneath.

    I was hoping to extend the useful life of a bunch of old machines. Guess that is off the agenda now.

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    Default Re: Installing 11.1 on an old pc

    You could try Xubuntu. That's suppose to run on your spec.

    Get Xubuntu

    Puppy Linux isn't bad but I found it a little daunting to install things. That might just be my inexperience. It ran quick tho on an old P4 I have.
    "To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password."

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