Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

  1. #1

    Default 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

    My 11.1 system has become unstable recently (Gnome hanging).
    I am considering:
    1. Upgrading in place to 11.2M6. Is it possible? How dangerous is it?
    2. Putting 11.2M6 on a usb stick. But I need to mount my /opt partition as well as my 11.1 /home partition (maybe as /home2) so that I can use the 11.2 system "for real". And mainly, if I have problems, I should be able to simple boot back into 11.1 normally.

    Thanks,
    nat

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Phuket, Thailand
    Posts
    27,109
    Blog Entries
    40

    Default Re: 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

    Quote Originally Posted by nat101 View Post
    My 11.1 system has become unstable recently (Gnome hanging).
    I am considering:
    1. Upgrading in place to 11.2M6. Is it possible? How dangerous is it?
    2. Putting 11.2M6 on a usb stick. But I need to mount my /opt partition as well as my 11.1 /home partition (maybe as /home2) so that I can use the 11.2 system "for real". And mainly, if I have problems, I should be able to simple boot back into 11.1 normally.
    1. 11.2 M6 is for testing. Not for a day to day system.

    2. Linux systems on a USB stick run slow.

    3. Don't install 11.2 M6 unless testing is your goal.

    wrt 11.1, IMHO, unless you have many custom compiled applications and unless you invested a lot of time in custom tuning, you might get a better return for your time by either:
    • create a new user account to see if that user has the same destkop problems, and if the same problem then
    • consider re-installing 11.1

  3. #3

    Thumbs up Re: 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

    Aye; Thanks for the heads up and sound advice.
    nat

  4. #4

    Default Re: 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

    I have installed SUSE 11.2 M6 with EXT4 and EXT3 and in both cases find no "keyboard layout" in YAST and my Spanish keyboard is not recognized even though I said it was Spanish and some keyboard file has a name that looks like it is Spanish.

    I had to run a "repair installation" where it found some "uninstalled packages" and then allowed me to install them - why not during the original installation?

    I also get something called a "fast boot" - why?

    I have 11.2 installed on an INTEL X25M SSD which is normally fast but slowed to a grind as SUSE goes examining something called "fd0" and finds about six "errors" and takes its time doing it.

    Otherwise its great and grubs up with Windows 7 nicely - also with EXT4 which I don't understand.

    My GA-EX58-UD5 / INTEL-core-i7 / 12-Gigabyte-RAM under SUSE 11.1 would not recognize its r8169 network card on reboot - and on boot sometimes - but now it does so I don't have to buy a new board.

  5. #5

    Default Sorry for off-topic

    I have faced a similar problem recently with openSUSE 11.1: both in KDE and Gnome, the system hangs after a couple of minutes of work. I tried to use the trick that oldcpu advises and created a new user account, but to no avail: the problems re-appeared just in a couple of days. Currently, I use IceWM that has much less bells and whistles but is fast and reliable. I suspect, the problem could be about my Radeon x200 video card, because on my old computer with GeForce 5200 there were no problem, but have no clue how to verify if this is the problem or something else.

    As for milestones, I had a keyboard problem too (m2 actually, not m6): no layout could be chosen except for English (US). Definitely, not for everyday work.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Phuket, Thailand
    Posts
    27,109
    Blog Entries
    40

    Default Re: Sorry for off-topic

    Quote Originally Posted by dg333 View Post
    I have faced a similar problem recently with openSUSE 11.1: both in KDE and Gnome, the system hangs after a couple of minutes of work. I tried to use the trick that oldcpu advises and created a new user account, but to no avail: the problems re-appeared just in a couple of days. Currently, I use IceWM that has much less bells and whistles but is fast and reliable. I suspect, the problem could be about my Radeon x200 video card, because on my old computer with GeForce 5200 there were no problem, but have no clue how to verify if this is the problem or something else.
    This is a pre-release beta subforum, and a thread on openSUSE-11.2 milestone-6 , which has not been released. Its for testers. IMHO for this 11.1 glitch, you will be better served by posting in a nominal support area, and not in this "pre-release/beta" area.

    If it was me with the problem you encountered, and if I suspected the graphics at issue, I would try different drivers. ie try the VESA driver, the openGL driver, and various versions of the proprietary ATI Radeon driver and see if any of those does not have the problem you described.


    Quote Originally Posted by dg333 View Post
    As for milestones, I had a keyboard problem too (m2 actually, not m6): no layout could be chosen except for English (US). Definitely, not for everyday work.
    That would make a good bug report.

  7. #7

    Default Re: 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

    How do I post a "bug report"?

    The lack of a "keyboard layout" in YAST is serious - and mind boggling that it should ueberhaupt happen - SUSE seems to lack an "attention to detail" which is disturbing.

    Can SUSE also publish a guideline to creating partitions for a SUSE-11.2 installation using EXT4 but EXT3 for a boot partition.

    Mostly we just install and let the installer decide or suggest some optimal partitioning. Can you change 11.2 to suggest a root partition, boot partition and home partition, or a menu of "most probable" partitioning - depending on the user expected.

    That would be a big help.

    What would be good is a graphical interface with a suggestion for partitions - say root, boot and home - and then the user can shift a boundary between each to change the size of each partition. You can type in partition sizes but a graphical layout with shifting boundaries is more intuitive to some and simple to those who don't want to spend time getting lost in what is a simple task for most SUSE users.

    Instead of a suggested partitioning you could ask the user to type in the partitions they want - let the installer make an initial partition size suggestion - then allow the user to change the size of each either directly (by typing in a size) or by shifting boundaries - SuperSuse 11.2.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Phuket, Thailand
    Posts
    27,109
    Blog Entries
    40

    Default Re: 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

    Quote Originally Posted by phconnell View Post
    How do I post a "bug report"?
    There is guidance to raise a bug report here: Submitting Bug Reports - openSUSE

    Quote Originally Posted by phconnell View Post
    The lack of a "keyboard layout" in YAST is serious - and mind boggling that it should ueberhaupt happen - SUSE seems to lack an "attention to detail" which is disturbing.
    In your initial post you stated "no layout could be chosen except for English (US)" ... that is significantly different from stating "the lack of a keyboard layout".

    Apologies, but the nuiances of the English Language have me now confused as to what your problem might be. One can definitely choose different keyboards in YaST. Please take a look here and here: YaST/Modules/Keyboard Layout - openSUSE which notes there are different keyboard layouts.

    I had thought you discovered a bug which stopped your ability to choose, but now you are saying there is no layout. Those are completely different assessments, and I no longer can contribute any advice as to how to procede as I do not understand what you are trying to describe.

    Quote Originally Posted by phconnell View Post
    Can SUSE also publish a guideline to creating partitions for a SUSE-11.2 installation using EXT4 but EXT3 for a boot partition.
    Guide? Are you saying you want to make the root " / " EXT3 and the /home EXT4 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by phconnell View Post
    Can you change 11.2 to suggest a root partition, boot partition and home partition, or a menu of "most probable" partitioning - depending on the user expected.
    Note we provide support on our forum. We are by no means associated with the Novell/SuSE-GmbH openSUSE packagers. But it is relatively easy to customize one's openSUSE during installation, by deselecting the "auto configuration" box during the early stages of the install, and then very carefully selecting the partitioning that one wants when they get to the partitioning section of the install.

    Quote Originally Posted by phconnell View Post
    What would be good is a graphical interface with a suggestion for partitions - say root, boot and home - and then the user can shift a boundary between each to change the size of each partition.
    IMHO if you want to this graphical interface (per your description), then you should prior to the openSUSE installation, carve up your partitions with either the Parted Magic live CD or the gparted live CD (as they have such a display). Then boot openSUSE to install, and tell the openSUSE installer to install exactly where you planned when running the Parted Magic live CD or the gparted live CD.

  9. #9

    Default Re: 11.1 ---> 11.2M6

    oldcpu wrote:

    > phconnell;2034566 Wrote:
    >> How do I post a "bug report"? There is guidance to raise a bug report
    >> here: 'Submitting Bug Reports -

    > openSUSE' (http://en.opensuse.org/Submit_a_Bug)
    >
    > phconnell;2034566 Wrote:
    >> The lack of a "keyboard layout" in YAST is serious - and mind boggling
    >> that it should ueberhaupt happen - SUSE seems to lack an "attention to
    >> detail" which is disturbing. In your initial post you stated "no layout
    >> could be chosen except for

    > English (US)" ... that is significantly different from stating "the lack
    > of a keyboard layout".
    >
    > Apologies, but the nuiances of the English Language have me now
    > confused as to what your problem might be. One can definitely choose
    > different keyboards in YaST.


    Not in 11.2. It has been removed. You need: Configure Desktop [aka System
    (or Personal) Settings] - Regional & Language - Keyboard Layout.

    --
    Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
    "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me."

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •