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    Default OpenSuse 11.1 vs Windows Vista

    Hi I would like to introduce myself to this forum. I'm a 30 y/o guy very into computering. Now I've encouraged myself to test linux and here comes the first question you may answer.

    Sorry If I write something wrong because english is not my nature language. And sorry again if this is not the right forum to write my question, so if it's another please tell me.

    I first tried to install openSuse 11.1 on my laptop. A very tight laptop Compaq C700, Intel processor, 3GB RAM and 320GB HDD (a new one to test linux). But besides everything is working fine, it installed very fast, recognized and installed all the drivers, it's VERY SLOW!

    Slower than my usual WVista Home Basic. And then all my faith into linux has been broken. Also that laptop is the one my wifes browses the internet and it's making me wonder if it's normal or I've done something wrong.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.1 vs Windows Vista

    In what way is it slow?

    If you mean the Internet seems to be going slow, maybe turn off IPv6. You can do that in the Yast control panel under Network Devices -> Network Settings -> Global Options -> Enable IPv6 (unselect it).
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    Hi, thanks for your reply.
    I mean spending more than 2 min in booting and then very slow program launching. I've tried both kde 4.1 and Gnome but it's seems to be the same (more or less).

    Maybe I've expected a better improvement on Linux rather than Vista (wich I personally don't like at all).

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.1 vs Windows Vista

    When booting if you hit the Esc key it will fall back to Verbose and you will see scrolling text. Watch this carefully and see if it hangs anywhere in particular, watch for error messages to the right like 'failed' in red colour.
    Make a note of anything.

    You could also try the Failsafe boot option from the menu, see if it performs differently.

    Tell us about the hardware, especially the graphics.
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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.1 vs Windows Vista

    Hi here comes the specifications of the product.
    Also per example when totally booted and everything running it takes about 10 15 secs to open mozilla, once opened it opens pages almost instantly, but when opening new tabs or windows the waiting comes again.

    Intel Celeron 550 @2GHZ
    3GB RAM @ 667Mhz
    HDD 320GB Seagate SATA@5400
    Wlan atheros
    Graphic Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
    with shared memory dynamically.

    Thanks again.
    Will test to review booting with ESC key this afternoon after work and then tell you.

    Bye!

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.1 vs Windows Vista

    Quote Originally Posted by elgrox View Post
    Hi here comes the specifications of the product.
    Also per example when totally booted and everything running it takes about 10 15 secs to open mozilla, once opened it opens pages almost instantly, but when opening new tabs or windows the waiting comes again.

    Intel Celeron 550 @2GHZ
    3GB RAM @ 667Mhz
    HDD 320GB Seagate SATA@5400
    Wlan atheros
    Graphic Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
    with shared memory dynamically.

    Thanks again.
    Will test to review booting with ESC key this afternoon after work and then tell you.

    Bye!
    Your intel graphics card might be the source of part of your issue, but after updating you might see some performance boost.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.1 vs Windows Vista

    hi. sorry but what do you mean with updating?
    Do I have to do a opensuse update with it's applet or update to 11.2 milestone, at least for testing?

    regards
    aaron

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgrox View Post
    hi. sorry but what do you mean with updating?
    Do I have to do a opensuse update with it's applet or update to 11.2 milestone, at least for testing?

    regards
    aaron
    with the updater applet, dont worry about 11.2 now.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 11.1 vs Windows Vista

    Quote Originally Posted by elgrox View Post
    Hi, thanks for your reply.
    I mean spending more than 2 min in booting and then very slow program launching. I've tried both kde 4.1 and Gnome but it's seems to be the same (more or less).

    Maybe I've expected a better improvement on Linux rather than Vista (wich I personally don't like at all).

    I am always very happy to see someone at least willing to try to use Linux. Most people are to lazy to even try nowa days.

    Some things I would like to point out tho about linux before you make any assumptions on the OS in general.

    1) Not all linux distros are the same. Trying out just one version and being disappointed with all of linux after only trying one distro is no different then going into a restaurant and trying one item on the menu and thinking all the food sucks.

    2) Since all distros are basic compilations of GNU software running on the Linux kernal. You may find other distros may have the right mix of software that fits you and your computers needs.

    That being said. Sounds to me like if its taking two mins to boot, something is erroring out on you. More then likely a module(modules are much like drivers) is trying to load from the kernel on boot but its dieing on you. There can be many reasons for this. But at the same time it can be resolved in a few seconds after the problem is pinpointed.

    You may ask, why is this a issue with Linux and not windows. Here is the strait up answer. Linux has most all drivers (for most all hardware) pre-built into the kernel or built with the kernel as a external module. Windows on the other hand have the CD scan the computer and only load a small essential drivers to get the OS booted, then allowing the user to install drivers provided by the manufacture. Now they both methods of driver management have their good and bad sides. Windows way is better with a higher success rate getting the correct driver installed (IF you have the driver CD for all your hardware). The Linux way is really good because you mostly dont need any driver as they are already in the kernel for you. Which IMHO makes the Linux way much much better for older systems where you cant get drivers anymore. But sometimes those modules are not always 100% compatable or have a conflict and will rarely but does happen. Fail to load. If this happens during boot, it may make you think its taking for ever to load. In reality the kernel is working its ass off for your trying to resolve the issue and get the module loaded.

    But if SuSE isnt working. Please try other distros before desiding to not go with Linux. My personal pick is Debian or Ubuntu. Debian being most stable IMHO, Ubuntu having the most latest software. Ubuntu also have a single CD install and in addition for your laptop they have a special Laptop Install CD with notebook/laptop specialized drivers. Ubuntu Home Page | Ubuntu and Debian -- The Universal Operating System


    Hope this helps. :-)

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