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    Default difference between repos with and without a ":"

    I wonder what is the difference between the repos with a ":" such as "Mozilla:" and those without it such as "Mozilla"

    Example (please pay attention to the presence or absence of a ":" after Mozilla!):
    - in Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1/x86_64 one can find MozillaFirefox-3.5.2-2.1.x86_64.rpm dated august 20
    - while in Index of /repositories/mozilla:/Factory/openSUSE_11.1/x86_64 one finds MozillaFirefox-3.0.10-77.1.x86_64.rpm dated april 29,
    Furthermore in Index of /repositories/mozilla:/Factory/openSUSE_Factory/x86_64 one can find MozillaFirefox-3.5.2-113.1.x86_64.rpm dated august 23 while there is no http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...actory/x86_64/...

    Finally, I found that enigmail (apparently required by Thunderbird for encryption) is in the repo "Mozilla:" but not in "Mozilla" (and not in the standard 11.1 oss repo).

    Are the repos with a ":" the result of a build service and those without repos by official opensuse maintainers ?

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: difference between repos with and without a ":"

    MD25 wrote:
    > I wonder what is the difference between the repos with a ":" such as
    > "Mozilla:" and those without it such as "Mozilla"


    as far as i can see the ":" has nothing to do with it, and the
    differences in the Mozilla rpm in each directory is different BECAUSE
    the directory is different...lets line up the repo addresses and let
    you see the differences:

    mozilla/openSUSE_11.1/x86_64
    mozilla:/Factory/openSUSE_11.1/x86_64
    mozilla:/Factory/openSUSE_Factory/x86_64

    see now?

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    Default Re: difference between repos with and without a ":"

    Sorry for my poor English.
    Apparently you did not understand me.
    I know that the repos are different directories and that their content is different. My question is not that. My question is WHY are there different directories ? What is the common pattern between directories with a ":" ?
    You have got
    Mozilla and Mozilla: Apache: and Apache, Archiving: and Archiving, Banshee: and Banshee etc...
    Please have a look at Index of /repositories to see the full list.

    However some have only one kind (e.g. Application: and no Application or Beagle and no Beagle: )

    => What makes the maintainers of download.opensuse.org add a ":" to some directories and not to others?

    Once again,
    Are the repos with a ":" the result of a build service and those without the ":", repos by official opensuse maintainers ? (or what else ???)

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: difference between repos with and without a ":"

    > Sorry for my poor English.

    you english is great!

    > Apparently you did not understand me.


    no i did not understand...i had no idea why they use : sometimes, and
    sometimes not!

    but striving to be a google-ninja-master i found this search string

    sitepensuse.org repository directory naming convention

    returned this thread as number one:

    http://forums.opensuse.org/applicati...nventions.html

    which yields a "Lazy_Kent" posting that "Directories without colons
    are projects in OBS. In directories with colons are their subprojects."

    i do not know what an "OBS" is, but perhaps you do, or you can google
    it....ok??

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    Teach google and you feed him for a lifetime.

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    Default Re: difference between repos with and without a ":"

    OBS is openSUSE Build Service.
    ° Appreciate my reply? Click the star and let me know why.

    ° Perfection is not gonna happen. No way.

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    Default Re: difference between repos with and without a ":"

    Quote Originally Posted by goldie View Post
    but striving to be a google-ninja-master i found this search string

    sitepensuse.org repository directory naming convention
    You are better at finding ideas of words for googling than me because I can swear I had spent quite some time to try to find the answer before but did not find that thread!

    Apparently my previous searches almost gave me the answer ("Are the repos with a ":" the result of a build service and those without the ":", repos by official opensuse maintainers ? (or what else ???)").

    If I understand better now (but I really have trouble understanding the documentation for the open build services!), the repos with a column in their name are possibly multi-distros build services, while the repos without column are opensuse specific (which would not agree with what lazy-kent wrote...)

    May I extend my question to ask whether the category "service" in the yast module to select installation media/repos (sorry for the poor translation, my system is not in English) would only be useful for me if I would be a developer wanting to use setup and use a private build service to be able to produce packaged version of my code for the various targets available in the compile farm ?

    Anyway, thanks a lot, Goldie and Knurpht for your help!

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    goldie NNTP User

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    > May I extend my question to ask whether the category "service" in the
    > yast module to select installation media/repos (sorry for the poor
    > translation, my system is not in English) would only be usefull for me
    > if I would be a developper wanting to use setup and use a private build
    > service to be able to produce packaged version of my code for the
    > various targets available in the compile farm ?


    hmmmm...i can't quite follow that....i wonder if you could post in
    your native language...or NOW, don't get defensive...i am VERY poor
    once i get away from my mother tongue...are you using google
    translations...or some other...

    maybe a screen shot (uploaded elsewhere and give a url) and posting in
    your native lingo...and MAYBE someone can understand..

    please DO NOT rush off....i am doing my BEST to be helpful and
    supportive...

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    Camalen NNTP User

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    MD25 wrote:

    > => What makes the maintainers of download.opensuse.org add a ":" to
    > some directories and not to others?


    Dunno. But you can ask directly to packagers :-)

    http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/op...-buildservice/

    > Once again,
    > Are the repos with a ":" the result of a build service and those
    > without the ":", repos by official opensuse maintainers ? (or what else
    > ???)


    No, nothing at OBS (openSUSE Build Service) is "officially" supported by
    openSUSE.

    Greetings,

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldie View Post
    >
    hmmmm...i can't quite follow that....
    OK. I will try to be clearer this time, with shorter sentences and exact terminology (taken from the English version of yast interface this time).
    If you launch Yast and go to "Software" then "Software repositories", you get a window entitled "Configured Software repositories".
    On the right part of this window, you find the list of repos that you have configured (at least oss and non-oss opensuse repos)
    On the left part, just under the title, you can see two lines:
    "Services" and "Repositories". Repositories is highlighted by default.
    If you click "services", apparently, for most of the people, the right part of the window will become empty.

    My question is: what is this "Service" category used for?

    Tentative answer: to add Open Build Services for developers wanting to use them to make their own packaging for several distros/versions of distros ?

    It is just a curiosity question for me. If it is not possible to have a simple answer without reading the full documentation of build services, I will try to forget it!

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    On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:03:09 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

    > No, nothing at OBS (openSUSE Build Service) is "officially" supported by
    > openSUSE.


    Actually, recent discussion suggests that things that are not in the user
    home directories should be (and possibly are to some extent). There's
    two areas on OBS - "Projects" and "Home Directories" - things that you or
    I publish would fall in the "Home Directories". Things that fall in
    something like "X11:/" may be because they're managed as projects.

    Jim


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