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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaleón View Post
    MD25 wrote:

    > => What makes the maintainers of download.opensuse.org add a ":" to
    > some directories and not to others?


    Dunno. But you can ask directly to packagers :-)
    I followed your advice (Difference between directories mozilla and mozilla: ? - openSUSE Forums), but you will see that it seems to me that the answers can be contradictory to what can really be found in these directories and to the list of recommended repositories in the community option of the YAST repositories management part.

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: difference between repos with and without a ":"

    i think your question is now perfectly clear! (won't it be wonderful
    the day google translations can not only do a PERFECT translation, but
    also knows what we *meant* to say!!)

    back to your question: i am sure i have NO idea...hopefully someone
    who knows will read and answer..

    or, maybe you can find it somewhere in http://en.opensuse.org/YaST

    but, i'll not be looking there for you! ;-)

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    goldie

  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldie View Post
    to your question: i am sure i have NO idea...hopefully someone
    who knows will read and answer..
    Hopefully!
    Nonetheless, thanks !
    You at least helped keep the thread alive!

  4. #14
    Camaleón NNTP User

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    Jim Henderson wrote:

    > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:03:09 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
    >
    >> No, nothing at OBS (openSUSE Build Service) is "officially" supported by
    >> openSUSE.

    >
    > Actually, recent discussion suggests that things that are not in the user
    > home directories should be (and possibly are to some extent). There's
    > two areas on OBS - "Projects" and "Home Directories" - things that you or
    > I publish would fall in the "Home Directories". Things that fall in
    > something like "X11:/" may be because they're managed as projects.


    "Projects", yes, but not always well tested as the "officially supported"
    packages are.

    Security patches are only applied to "/oss" and "/non-oss" packages, which
    are the ones provided with the DVD release.

    Anything else in the OBS falls into "it may works, but maybe not" so proceed
    with care if using those packages on production systems :-).

    Greetings,

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    Camaleón

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    On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:26:07 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

    > "Projects", yes, but not always well tested as the "officially
    > supported" packages are.


    Yep, basically, I'd treat those as I would packman or other unofficial
    repositories. If it breaks something, back it out and go back to the
    official repos first.

    > Anything else in the OBS falls into "it may works, but maybe not" so
    > proceed with care if using those packages on production systems :-).


    Agreed. :-)

    Jim

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  6. #16
    Camaleón NNTP User

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    MD25 wrote:

    > I followed your advice ('Difference between directories mozilla and
    > mozilla: ? - openSUSE Forums' (http://tinyurl.com/nmsllo)), but you will
    > see that it seems to me that the answers can be contradictory to what
    > can really be found in these directories and to the list of recommended
    > repositories in the community option of the YAST repositories management
    > part.


    I told you to ask in the mailing list used by the OBS packages maintainers.
    They are the only ones that could give you any hint :-)

    Enabling repositories besides "/oss" and "/non-oss" has to be done with
    care. I would not recommend having a bunch of them enabled by default
    because there are some packages and libraries -coming from different
    sources- that can conflict between them. I'd better switch them on/off only
    when required.

    Greetings,

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    Camaleón

  7. #17

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    @ Camaleón

    I agree with your comment on oss and nonoss, but to use an opensuse at home for the family, you need at least packman (and VLC for the libdvdcss), and then you get duplicates....
    Furthermore, for my work, I NEED scientific libraries and softwares, that I can find either in science:, science, Education: or Education ...
    My problem is to know which one to choose.

  8. #18
    Camaleón NNTP User

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    MD25 wrote:

    > @ Camaleón
    >
    > I agree with your comment on oss and nonoss, but to use an opensuse at
    > home for the family, you need at least packman (and VLC for the
    > libdvdcss), and then you get duplicates....
    > Furthermore, for my work, I NEED scientific libraries and softwares,
    > that I can find either in science:, science, Education: or Education ...


    That's true.

    I also need Firefox packages from /mozilla OBS repo. But I've got that repos
    disabled by default, to avoid mess. OBS repos are only enabled "on
    demand" :-)

    > My problem is to know which one to choose.


    Choose the one holding the "package version" which best suits your needs. I
    am currently using this one, as no other repo has the packages I need:

    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/

    Greetings,

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    Camaleón

  9. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaleón View Post
    I also need Firefox packages from /mozilla OBS repo. But I've got that repos
    disabled by default, to avoid mess. OBS repos are only enabled "on
    demand" :-)
    My wife an I have a total of five PCs with at least one opensuse boot possibility, including 2 PCs for which opensuse is the default boot system. I use different combinations of repos on these PCs + some that I update frequently and others not, and I very rarely have conflicts to solve at installation. Except for my sandbox featuring 11.2 M6, opensuse is generally stable (except sometimes k3b and amarok). The philosophy is quite different between a PC at home for teenagers that want to have at least the same functionalities for multimedia as their friends under windows (and hopefully more!) than for a workstation at work (not speaking of a server).

    The main point of having the repos enabled is to know when a new version is out, which I need especially for the scientific libraries and software I use for work.

    Concerning the choice betwen repositories including a ":" in their name and those not including it e.g. Education: and Education, it is not easy to decide just by looking at the content at a given time because I want to know which one is updated most regularly but also which one pays the most attention to the coherency of the versions of the packages (also with the version of gcc or glibc needed).
    I do not want to troll but it is a bit like the difference between those that want to use (K)ubuntu and those that want to stick with Debian...

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    Camaleón NNTP User

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    MD25 wrote:

    > Camaleón;2032529 Wrote:
    >>
    >> I also need Firefox packages from /mozilla OBS repo. But I've got that
    >> repos
    >> disabled by default, to avoid mess. OBS repos are only enabled "on
    >> demand" :-)
    >>

    >
    > My wife an I have a total of five PCs with at least one opensuse boot
    > possibility, including 2 PCs for which opensuse is the default boot
    > system. I use different combinations of repos on these PCs + some that I
    > update frequently and others not, and I very rarely have conflicts to
    > solve at installation. Except for my sandbox featuring 11.2 M6, opensuse
    > is generally stable (except sometimes k3b and amarok). The philosophy is
    > quite different between a PC at home for teenagers that want to have at
    > least the same functionalities for multimedia as their friends under
    > windows (and hopefully more!) than for a workstation at work (not
    > speaking of a server).
    >
    > The main point of having the repos enabled is to know when a new
    > version is out, which I need especially for the scientific libraries and
    > software I use for work.


    Yes, but more than often, having enabled a bunch of repos (not just "1"
    or "2" but ">20" :-P) can lead the user to make errors as it is difficult
    to see what packages and libraries are being installed and from what
    repositories.

    And more that often a mess of libraries (like python or multimedia packages
    such gstreamer) happens.

    > Concerning the choice betwen repositories including a ":" in their name
    > and those not including it e.g. Education: and Education, it is not easy
    > to decide just by looking at the content at a given time because I want
    > to know which one is updated most regularly but also which one pays the
    > most attention to the coherency of the versions of the packages (also
    > with the version of gcc or glibc needed).
    > I do not want to troll but it is a bit like the difference between
    > those that want to use (K)ubuntu and those that want to stick with
    > Debian...


    You were speaking about Mozilla repo, and for Mozilla repo there should be
    no problem as both "/mozilla" and "/mozilla:" handle different packages and
    versions (3.0.x and 3.5.x).

    Greetings,

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    Camaleón

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