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    Default Hardware-Failure by iron rule?

    I have the following Hardware to be supported by the OS
    -> Monitor
    -> Keyboard
    -> Mouse
    -> Analog Modem
    -> 2 DVD-Drives (Read/Write)
    -> Onboard Soundcard
    -> Epson Printer
    -> One Zip-Drive
    -> One Floppy-Disk-Drive
    I have to find out, that no matter what OpenSuse or other Linux distribution I am using, at least one device is constantly not working. When I am lucky that printer and soundboard have been detected and are working well, I get next annoyed by seeing the k3d does not detect my LG-DVD-writer. If both writer are properly detected however the sound board is signaled to be buggy. If there is no apparent fault at all I get my cold shower with the keyboard suddenly no more supporting extendend german keys. It is quite a hell spending money on this trash and it applies to all distributions (Ubuntu, Mandriva, OpenSuse). So I wonder: Is there an iron Linux rule to constantly disturb or not accept at least one available device? The point is: There is always at least one distribution which properly works on the specified devices. This is wicked! Or is it the number of devices which troubles Linux. Should I disconnect the floppy disk drive? Or the ZIP-Drive?

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    * KonradV,

    most of the time it is different kernel versions among differnet distributions causing such effects. I suggest you install openSUSE and you let us help you fixing the issue with the device not working under openSUSE :-)

    Uwe

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    goldie NNTP User

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    > Or is it the number of devices which troubles Linux.

    it is the other way around: no devices have linux trouble, it is just
    that almost all devices *have* drivers to allow them to work effort
    free with Microsoft Windows...

    see, MS and hardware manufacturers work together to KEEP you coming
    back year after year...no matter how much that cost you!

    but, more and more hardware makers are participating in developing
    drivers for the Mac, and for Linux..

    they do that by helping to write the open source drivers, or by
    writing their own, proprietary drivers....an example of this is nVidia
    who write drivers FOR linux, as well as for Windows..

    until all devices are born with Linux drivers it is best to buy
    hardware that is KNOWN to work with Linux...

    IBM, Leveno, Dell, HP, Asus and others make systems which ship with
    Linux installed...i guess most of those systems will run Vista (but i
    do NOT know that for sure)....what i DO know is there are thousands
    and thousands of combinations of hardware DESIGNED for Windows use
    that will NOT run on BeOS, OS/2, Unix, AIX, Mac, *or* Linux _*OR*_
    dozens of others in this list:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems

    patience in doing the research PRIOR to purchase is the best
    course...and, if you look at the money you save over the years by NOT
    being tied to one software vendor, you can afford to throw away some
    of the problems....and, start over!!!

    --
    goldie
    Give a hacker a fish and you feed him for a day.
    Teach man and you feed him for a lifetime.

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    I am convinced that Linux-Systems provide the drivers for all my hardware. On many distributions my soundboard plays the music, on many distributions my printer works fine, on other distributions my two DVD-writers are properly configured and accessible etc. What really strikes me, is that on what distribution ever I install, at least one device fails. It is really a ***** with Linux. Recently I had Knoppix on my computer. I was quite amazed that everything seems to run perfectly... until I tried to save the configuration to floppy disk. Nothing happened at all even though it was formatted etc. On OpenSuse my Intel Soundboard fails. Yesterday I tried an OpenSuse 11.1 from Data Becker and the it was nonetheless correctly loaded. But then (the hell!) my second DVD-drive was suddenly not configured. I put a CD in and nothing plays. Recently I installed Kubuntu, and after having even running KDE without problems, I got stuck configuring my printer. It was impossible. Following this torture over mounth now I wrecked days and some hundred Euro only for trying insane distribution driving me to despair! I assure you, this is not the way to frighten the MS-Windows Community...

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    goldie NNTP User

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    > I assure you, this is not the way to frighten the MS-Windows
    > Community...


    WHO is trying to do that?

    i don't care if they march shoulder-to-shoulder UNfrightened into 2010
    or 2110, spending all the money they wish trying to keep out the
    viruses, worms, malware, trojans, crackers, key loggers, bot-net
    makers and whatever...

    i do NOT care what folks with a ring IN their nose do with their money
    or their time (if they enjoy reinstalling just to keep operating, then
    LET them)..

    ALL of my hardware works...i am happy...yours can work too...if you
    have the patience to make it happen..

    if not, and if Microsoft Windows works for you, then use
    it...UNfrightened....until the cows come home..

    i see that so far, including the post i'm answering you have made 13
    posts here....how many of those asked for help? how many times have
    you asked for help here and NOT found a solution?

    --
    goldie

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    * KonradV,

    please install openSUE and let's start solving your issues. You can let off some steam in the soapbox forum; this one here is for technical purposes only.

    Thank you.

    Uwe

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    Sorry to contradict you but:
    1) It are not _my_ problems but yours (OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Mandriva et alteri...
    2) As I mentioned I deliberately destroy obviously not working distributions after the second try to get rid of constantly occuring problems and to prevent me from investing more energy. I also told that exactly this happened yesterday after approx. 3 hours and 13 Euro spent on my latest OpenSuse 11.1 try.
    3) I am able to perform all my necessary duties with fu**** MS-windows and I will never again install OpenSuse, Mandriva and Ubuntu in order to get skrewed by demon-tools like kppp.
    4) Without a working internet-connection you may have some trouble helping me over "my" problems
    5) I _am_ aware about the nature of "help" usually offered by the help-desks consisting of half a dozen of command lines the half of them not recognised and the other ones filled with accronyms like ${KDEDIR} etc and this is usually the position, where I get lost. You just don't understand, what it really means being a _newby_ in Linux. Otherwise you would come to the point rather than constantly offering workarounds. If (for example) kppp cannot be started or configured accompenied by a shower of license, protection and similar messages this is a problem to be resolved by the official installer (Yast etc). You cannot burden the user with this task, if at the same time the help-files on the DVD-ROM provide no hit when just entering Modem and the connection with the internet fails.

    Last comment on this issue... Continue your community in peace...

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: Hardware-Failure by iron rule?

    > You just don't understand, what it really means being a _newby_ in Linux.

    he thinks you were born with a silver penguin in your mouth Uwe..
    how else could he think you were never a n00b..

    i'm still one (after most of ten years)..

    anyway, i guess he would have never figured linux out...too little
    patience..

    too bad....well, maybe he will like Windows more and more with
    time...its not likely to get a lot worse than Vista..

    --
    goldie

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    Default Re: Hardware-Failure by iron rule?

    Make any problem anybody else's. Some call it efficiency. Some use other words.
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    Default Re: Hardware-Failure by iron rule?

    Knurpht, assuming you have openSUSE installed, please just post your specific problem, and we have many volunteers who would be willing to try to help.

    We don't package openSUSE on our forum. Rather we try to help users with openSUSE problems, or share in our success. So please just post your specific help request.

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