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    Question Is my hardware too new?

    Hi: I am brand new to Linux. I would like to run openSUSE on my new laptop, but I have new hardware technology such as DDR3 RAM, DDR3 VRAM, eSATA, and the like. I am in the process of downloading openSUSE 64 bit, can I expect the install to be successful given my hardware?

    Fujitsu Lifebook A6220
    Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 / 2.26 GHz
    64-bit, 1066 MHz FSB
    Mobile Intel PM45 Express Chipset
    4 GB DDR3 RAM - 1066 MHz

    (2) 500 GB SATA HDD - total 1TB
    DVDRW (R DL) / DVD-RAM

    15.4" TFT
    ATI Radeon HD 3470
    Video Memory - DDR3 VRAM - 128 MB
    HDMI - 19 pin HDMI
    VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15)

    Audio Codec -Realtek ALC269

    Intel WiFi Link 5100 - 802.11n

    CardBus - type I/II 1 ( 1 ) x ExpressCard

    4 x Hi-Speed USB

    IEEE 1394 4 pin FireWire
    Network 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T - RJ-45
    eSATA port
    Integrated Notebook Camera

    Fujitsu site with specs here.

    I look forward to any replies.

    Thanks, Bill

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    > Fujitsu Lifebook A6220

    have a look at the community maintained Hardware Compatibility List
    for Fujitsu laptops, here:
    http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Laptops/Fujitsu

    where you will, unfortunately, not find yours listed...so, there is
    little we tell you from documented experience, except these two things:

    if you go to Google's special Linux search site at
    http://www.google.com/linux and search on "Fujitsu Lifebook" A6220
    you get 11 hits (in english)...which i did not read, you should..

    if you search at the regular Google site (linux Fujitsu Lifebook
    A6220) you get over 200 hits...i didn't look at those either, you should..

    and, by restricting a Google search to the openSUSE site
    (sitepensuse.org Fujitsu Lifebook A6220) you get ONE hit, but it is
    your question!

    finally, you can look closely at the exact specs and then search for
    info, like this:

    > Mobile Intel PM45 Express Chipset


    and, you will find that this search linux "PM45 Express" will
    return over 5000 hits...(nope, i didn't read them)

    etc..

    now, BEFORE you even attempt an install read this, completely and
    follow all the steps: http://tinyurl.com/6jwtg9

    look at this, closely too: http://en.opensuse.org/INSTALL_Local

    then, before you start trying to add programs, WINE etc, take a moment
    to enjoy the what openSUSE is _born_, before it gets jumbled up
    because you didn't realize you install programs with YaST and not by
    downloading from the Flash or Java site...or whatever, read:
    http://en.opensuse.org/Concepts

    and, the Official openSUSE 11.1 Start-Up guide at
    http://www.novell.com/documentation/...0_startup.html

    and, when you have followed all the how-tos and stickies you will
    _maybe_ have a wonderful, stable, fast, reliable, virus free
    machine...keep notes on how you get to that stage and THEN go back to
    http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Laptops/Fujitsu and enter YOUR experience
    on that page, for the next guy/gal..

    by the way, WELCOME to open source in general, and openSUSE Linux in
    particular....oh, i guess you are downloading a Live CD....good, if it
    runs good you probably will have a good time....if not, you might
    wanna consider downloading the DVD, and start by installing 32 bit
    Gnome or KDE3....in my opinion that is a LOT easier (for now) than
    starting with 64 bit KDE4.....it is like this: learn to crawl, walk
    then run...if you start with run you probably will have a rough
    experience..

    ymmv

    --
    goldie
    Give a hacker a fish and you feed him for a day.
    Teach man and you feed him for a lifetime.

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    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    Thanks for all of that info goldie. And thank you for the warning about trying to install software like I'm still on windows machine. It is interesting to actually read documentation and understand what I am doing before I make any install attempts. I'm sure I will encounter some problems, but I am patient, and I really want to learn openSUSE.

    Thanks again, Bill

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    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    Oops, got my specs wrong. I have a single 500 GB HDD, not (2) 500 GB HDDs. My Acer Aspire 9805 laptop has 2 hard drives. I'll be using Gparted to split the Fujitsu drive into several partitions.

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    Will Honea NNTP User

    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    goldie wrote:

    <a whole bunch - snipped>

    Great tutorial but how about the simple brute force method of trying the
    live CD first? That will identify most non-working pieces so that one can
    concentrate on the few broken parts with some degree of confidence that the
    rest works. Not conclusive, but if it works on the live CD you can be
    pretty sure it will work on the full install.

    --
    Will Honea

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    > I am patient, and I really want to learn openSUSE.

    then you will do alright! it won't be easy and it will almost
    certainly be frustrating...but, with patience and a willingness to
    read (and ask questions) you will make it..

    it is a pretty steep learning curve....but it WILL get
    better...believe me..

    BEFORE you get frustrated and throw the machine through a window, (and
    go back to something else) read through this:
    _Linux is Not Windows_ http://tinyurl.com/8b9s6

    and, there are about a trillion bits of info on the net...here are a
    few of my favorite mostly *generic* Linux sources:
    http://tinyurl.com/r3wrcr/

    for openSUSE questions ASK here if you don't understand what you can
    find in the wiki or using a google search specifying the site, thusly:

    sitepensuse.org [your search string]

    OH, and unfortunately it is near impossible on the forum to know if
    you are listening to some old dude who knows NOTHING, or some young
    guy who really knows his stuff (or vice versa)...so, read well and
    carefully..

    measure twice, cut once.

    --
    goldie

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    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    Well, the live CD booted, hooray. I still need to do some reading before I install, will likely attempt an install tonight. There is practically no google info on my model of laptop with regard to linux, so there will be some unknowns in my install. That's okay, I guess I'll have to write the first Fujitsu A6220 openSUSE Linux install tutorial (after I figure out what I'm doing).
    -Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    Well, the live CD booted, hooray. I still need to do some reading before I install, will likely attempt an install tonight. There is practically no google info on my model of laptop with regard to linux, so there will be some unknowns in my install. That's okay, I guess I'll have to write the first Fujitsu A6220 openSUSE Linux install tutorial (after I figure out what I'm doing).
    There is always a first. By looking at individual components, you are going about it the correct way, which is a pretty darn good approach for some new to Linux.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    but I have new hardware technology such as DDR3 RAM, DDR3 VRAM, eSATA
    A couple years back this would be a concern. Not so much today. I have DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) RAM on my desktop PC, and it works well with a 64-bit openSUSE.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    Fujitsu Lifebook A6220
    Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 / 2.26 GHz
    My Dell Studio 1537 laptop has an Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 and openSUSE-11.1 (32-bit) installed well on it. I did not install the 64-bit. But I did install the 64-bit openSUSE-11.1 on an Intel Core i7 920 desktop which is SIGNIFICANTLY newer, and it worked well.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    Mobile Intel PM45 Express Chipset
    4 GB DDR3 RAM - 1066 MHz
    (2) 500 GB SATA HDD - total 1TB
    Sata should be ok. A few years back it was a different story.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    ATI Radeon HD 3470
    Video Memory - DDR3 VRAM - 128 MB
    I have an ATI Radeon HD3450 in my Dell Studio 1537. Both the open source free software openGL graphic driver (which comes with openSUSE - called "radeonhd" ) and the proprietary ATI driver (that one must download from ATI - called "fglrx" ) work well. I recommend you stick with the openSUSE provided ATI openGL driver initially, and upgrade to the high performance ATI provided graphic driver later.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    HDMI - 19 pin HDMI
    On my Dell Studio 1537 with the Radeon HD 3450 I managed to get the HDMI video working, but not the audio (with 1.0.17/1.0.18 of alsa). Its possible this is fixed in 1.0.20 of alsa, but I have not tried.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    Audio Codec -Realtek ALC269
    There is support for this. Searching the alsa web site (where alsa is the sound driver for Linux) I found this: Search results for ALC269 - AlsaProject
    I note there is an update between 1.0.18 and 1.0.19 of alsa to the autoprobe, so its possible the autoprobe may fail on boot and your sound may not immediately work. ....Did you get sound with the liveCD? Still, I think with some small effort (small for me) the sound should be able to be made to function.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    Intel WiFi Link 5100 - 802.11n
    My Dell Studio 1537 has an Intel 5300 AGN wireless and it "just works". Since openSUSE-11.1 has the 2.6.27 kernel, I think the 5100 should also "just work". I also note there are supposed to be major improvements in the 2.6.31 kernel for the Intel wireless, and the 2.6.31 kernel comes with openSUSE-11.2 (to be released in Nov) so keep open the possibility to update to openSUSE-11.2 later.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    IEEE 1394 4 pin FireWire
    The firewire on all my openSUSE-11.1 PC's "just works".

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    eSATA port
    I have an esata port, but I have never tested it.

    Quote Originally Posted by daemon77094 View Post
    Integrated Notebook Camera
    This could be tricky. It might NOT work.

    Boot to the live CD, and then open a terminal and type:
    lsusb
    and post here what you get. Or alternatively search here to see if you learn about web cam compatibility: HCL/Web Cameras - openSUSE

    Please read our stickie on installing openSUSE before you install: NEWBIES - Suse-11.1 Pre-installation – PLEASE READ - openSUSE Forums

    Also, since you stated you were new to Linux, here are some basic openSUSE concepts: Concepts - openSUSE

  9. #9
    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    excellent point Will!

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    goldie

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    Default Re: Is my hardware too new?

    Got openSUSE 11.1 64-bit installed and it is working! I opted for the KDE 4.1.3 desktop. I love the look of the OS, it is clean and streamlined, and it is also fast. Now I need to figure out how to get the WLAN working. The NIC is working, but this computer is going to be used for mostly wireless activity. I can see the WLAN hardware in YAST. So far, it looks like I need to either get a driver for the WLAN hardware, or I need to go into sysconfig editor (in the YaST Control Center) and make some changes. Any ideas? I know, I need to do some more reading!
    -Bill

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