hmm sorry for the questions!

right ive loaded POSIX and installed the ATI 64 bit driver…

i opened up terminal and typed in aticonfig --initial

it confirms and then i press restart…

when it loads it doesnt seemed to of worked and when i open firefox its like all juddery because of the display drivers not being there

…any ideas?

sorry for the questions… just trying to learn something new =]

Also does anyone know where the AMD CCC:LE config is?

:frowning:

I don’t use ATI cards, I have always been Nvidia. If I understand you let me take a guess. When I ran Nvidia-Settings in Konsole I had to do it as root in order for it to save when I rebooted. Are you doing this as root?

yup… i did it from root. i can manage to get the catalyst control center up but it seems like that opengl isnt using the ATI drivers, i dont know how to set this up.

i tried installing the RPM from ati aswell as the automatic configuration. still no luck, maybe its just firefox thats playing up??

i also wanted like the desktop effects but it keeps saying check my x configuration aswell… soo im stumped really.

Parka2k adjusted his/her AFDB on Friday 14 Aug 2009 20:56 to write:

>
> Also does anyone know where the AMD CCC:LE config is?
>
> :frowning:
>
>

Just open a terminal while in KDE/Gnome and you enter:

amdcccle

exactly as it is and the GUI config will open up.

However it sounds like you have not got the drivers installed if the screen
is jerky, see what happens when you run the amdccle command.

HTH


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plus… every so often now it keeps locking my screen for no reason :S i mean i would fully format it again and do the same process but it would probably do the same…

I installed it off the opensuse KDE live cd, would it of been better if i did it on the installation DVD?

Parka2k adjusted his/her AFDB on Friday 14 Aug 2009 21:56 to write:

>
> yup… i did it from root. i can manage to get the catalyst control
> center up but it seems like that opengl isnt using the ATI drivers, i
> dont know how to set this up.

You need to run amdcccle as the user while in KDE/Gnome?wm of choice, this
is so it can write specific choices for your login, settings made as root
will only affect root.

>
> i tried installing the RPM from ati aswell as the automatic
> configuration. still no luck, maybe its just firefox thats playing up??
>

Nope still sounds as if you are not using the right drivers, have a look in
your /etc/xorg.conf you should see something like:

Section “Device”
Identifier “aticonfig-Device[0]-0”
Driver “fglrx”
BusID “PCI:1:0:0”
EndSection

The fglrx shows you are using the ATI driver, anything else like radeon,
radeonhd or vesa means that the driver is not being used.

Also at the end there should be:

Section “Extensions”
Option “Composite” “on”
EndSection

This is what turns compositing on and is needed for the effects, however if
the fglrx is not loaded you will probably be using xrender to render the
graphics which is CPU bound and therefore slooooow.

> i also wanted like the desktop effects but it keeps saying check my x
> configuration aswell… soo im stumped really.
>
>

have a look in /usr/share/ati and see what the fglrx-install log says, take
no notice if it says anything at the bottom about changing directory and
running the install.sh that does not mean anything and can make things
worse.

HTH

Mark
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Parka2k adjusted his/her AFDB on Friday 14 Aug 2009 22:16 to write:

>
> I installed it off the opensuse KDE live cd, would it of been better if
> i did it on the installation DVD?
>
>

What exactly is your hardware please?

I should have asked in my previous post.


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it is a laptop…
specs are;
AMD Turion x2 2.1 ghz
3 gb of RAM
ATI 3450 HD (mobile guessing but its not under the mobile section of ATI)
Blu-Ray ROM DVD RW combi
Altec lansing speakers

if this is any help >.<

ALSO… do i install RPM or let it set up automatically?

this is what i got

Section “Device”
Identifier “Device[0]”
Driver “radeonhd”
VendorName “ATI”
BoardName “Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series (M82)”
Option “monitor-PANEL” “Monitor[0]”
EndSection

Section “Device”
Identifier “aticonfig-Device[0]-0”
Driver “fglrx”
BusID “PCI:1:0:0”
EndSection

also i dont have this

Section “Extensions”
Option “Composite” “on”
EndSection

at the end :S

Parka2k adjusted his/her AFDB on Saturday 15 Aug 2009 13:16 to write:

>
> this is what i got
>
> Section “Device”
> Identifier “Device[0]”
> Driver “radeonhd”
> VendorName “ATI”
> BoardName “Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series (M82)”
> Option “monitor-PANEL” “Monitor[0]”
> EndSection
>

This above is the entry for the Open source radeon driver

And below is the part for the ATI propriety driver.

> Section “Device”
> Identifier “aticonfig-Device[0]-0”
> Driver “fglrx”
> BusID “PCI:1:0:0”
> EndSection
>

You could just try and comment out the radeon driver ( with “#”`s ) part so
it looks like this

Section “Device”

Identifier “Device[0]”

Driver “radeonhd”

VendorName “ATI”

BoardName “Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series (M82)”

Option “monitor-PANEL” “Monitor[0]”

EndSection

I will not say 100% if that will work as the rest of the xorg.conf might be
a little confused :slight_smile:

But worth giving it a try, make sure you make a copy of the original, make a
copy in the same directory ( /etc/X11/ ) and call it xorg.conf-bak so if X
does not start you can just go back and rename it back to xorg.conf and you
will be back here as you are now.

Personally I would get to runlevel 3, either by logging out of the GUI and
then press Ctrl+Alt+F1, login as root, enter passwrod and then enter :

init 3

this will stop all the graphical stuff.

Next run:

sax2 -r -m 0=vesa

that tells sax2 to start with a fresh xorg,conf ( -r = reread the hardware
state and not use existing xorg.conf )

-m = use the next module for the graphics.

0=vesa means this is the module vesa which is a standard module that all
cards can use but is a basic driver with no fancy stuff, it just gets a
picture on the screen.

Next sax2 if starts, just follow the OK button, do not change anything as
long as you have a working graphical screen, then when you tell it to save
it will ask if you want to test, yep press test just to make sure, if all is
OK then save and exit.

This will give you a default xorg.conf with no added bits and pieces to get
in the way.

Now go back to /etc/x11/ and make a backup of that new xorg.conf just in
case, call it something like xorg.conf-working

you will be back at the command prompt, now type:

aticonfig --initial

and you should see the message about it doing its stuff and all is OK.

Now try:

init 5

If that gets you to a nice desktop and all seems OK you can then open a
console in KDE or Gnome and type:

amdcccle

which will get you the graphical Catalyst configurator to set up the rest
of your screens and resolutions.

Now if all is fine and working OK you can edit ( as root ) the xorg.conf and
add the last section:

Section “Extensions”
Option “Composite” “on”
EndSection

Notice the case of those lines.

Then log out of your desktop and when at the login screen press and hold
Ctrl+Alt and press the Backspace key twice, you should here a beep and the
screen will go black for a second and then you will be back at the login
screen, login and now try and enable the effects.

Hopefully you will be “Amazed”, “dumb struck” and “bedazzled” by the wobbly
windows :slight_smile:

If not then just replace the new xorg.conf with the backup and come back
here and shout at me for giving bad info :slight_smile:

Finally if you do get a system freeze or cannot get to a console to edit the
xorg.conf then reboot and at the grub screen type the number 3 on its own
this should be echoed on the kernel parameter line, then when the system
boots you will be back at the commandline so you can login as root and copy
the xorg.conf-working to xorg.conf overwriting the one that is there:

cp xorg.conf-working xorg.conf

There I think I have covered about all the bases there.

If you are not certain or I have baffled you with too much waffle then
please shout before you do anything, I will be happy to explain or try and
shorten my explanation

:wink:

HTH

Mark
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i did most stuff on there… got to sax2 said it failed, is it worth doing a fresh install from the DVD or Live CD version of opensuse. what is your opinion? ive printed all that stuff out just in case lol never knew something that looks better than windows can be so difficult!!

=]

I think something was wrong with your installation, what about your xorg.log said? and what version of ATI driver that you use? or maybe you can re-installing ATI Driver
from HCL/ATI Video Cards - openSUSE it’s clearly stated that you don’t have to installing ATI proprietary driver at all because it’s auto detected on 11.1 :wink:

hmm it also says this on the website :S man im soo confused hah

Autodetected - 3D Support - Just installed openSUSE-11.1 on my pc with this graphic card. I followed the instruction on this site and used the latest driver from ati. It worked flawlessly in KDE, but keep freezing in gnome.

Parka2k adjusted his/her AFDB on Saturday 15 Aug 2009 16:16 to write:

>
> i did most stuff on there… got to sax2 said it failed, is it worth
> doing a fresh install from the DVD or Live CD version of opensuse. what
> is your opinion? ive printed all that stuff out just in case lol never
> knew something that looks better than windows can be so difficult!!
>
> =]
>
>

Well, if you have nothing of import on the system then I suppose a re-
install would do the trick, however I would my self would tackle the
problem, but as your system might have a few conflicting bits of different
ATI installs on it it might be best.

But for a new person to linux a re-install is probably better at least you
will have a clean system.

Now once installed make sure you do a complete update as there will be
kernel and other important stuff to get then just holler back here ( start a
new thread if you want ) and we will guide you through the process depending
on which way you want to go ( repo, oneclick or the ʎɐʍpɹɐɥ )

:slight_smile:

HTH


Mark
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Ah I see my little joke backfired on me that last word which is all garbled should have been:

ʎɐʍpɹɐɥ

thanks for everybody who helps - SOLVED =]

> SOLVED

what did you do to fix it?


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