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    Default Where do I find a driver list?

    I am installing a new system and want to see if all drivers are up to date and that no generic drivers are being used. But I can not seem to find them. I have tried lsmod and lspci.
    Thanks for any help.

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: Where do I find a driver list?

    Steeler01 wrote:
    > I am installing a new system and want to see if all drivers are up to
    > date


    when you say "installing a new system" do you mean a new operating
    system (which one?) or a new hardware system?

    did you install from a CD or DVD downloaded from
    http://software.opensuse.org/ and then elect to do the default install
    offered update? if so, you HAVE the latest drivers for your hardware
    and software...trying to check all drivers manually is probably a
    waste of time..

    did you have to do such checking with your previous operating system?
    what kind of old fashioned system did you use?

    exactly what is it that you are trying to accomplish?

    is there something that is not working right that you are trying to
    fix by checking driver versions?


    > and that no generic drivers are being used.


    when you say "no generic drivers" exactly what do you mean? that you
    want as many non-GNU drivers as possible, or what?


    > But I can not seem to find them.


    well, that is because there is not a big directory where all drivers
    are stored..

    instead the drivers are, for the most part, inside the kernel....and,
    some are in loadable modules which are inserted/removed as
    needed...those are usually in /lib/modules (a place where only root
    should go--never log into KDE, Gnome, or other as root!)


    > I have tried lsmod and lspci.


    yep...those wouldn't be a lot of help in making sure you have the
    appropriate driver for your hardware/software..

    but, YaST does all of that automatically....well, i it auto-installs
    all OPEN source drivers...and, if you include packman in your YaST
    repos then you will pick up the proprietary drivers also...

    see http://en.opensuse.org/Concepts especially the part about software
    handling


    > Thanks for any help.


    welcome to open source, Linux and openSUSE..


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    Default Re: Where do I find a driver list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler01 View Post
    I am installing a new system and want to see if all drivers are up to date and that no generic drivers are being used. But I can not seem to find them. I have tried lsmod and lspci.
    Thanks for any help.
    Try loosing the windu approach. The only things you might need external drivers for are Wireless and Videocards (ATI and NVidia). In linux, drivers normally are kernel modules ( ATI and NVidia installers build the modules and 'attach' them to the kernel ).
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    OK. It is a new Computer with SuSE 11.1, which I installed for the first time. The last time I installed a new computer with SuSE 10.1, about 6 months later we had major problems with ide/ata/sata drivers. They all generic in the module name. When I took the same Computer and installed SuSE 10.3, the problems were gone and so was the word generic. So I am trying to prevent this from happening again. As I have again, ide_pci_generic and ata_generic as modules, with SuSE 11.1. So if there is now other way to tell, then I will just have read all 346 pages of Hardware-Info in Yast. I just thought someone might know of a better way.

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: Where do I find a driver list?

    Steeler01 wrote:
    > about 6 months later we had major problems with ide/ata/sata drivers.


    i can only guess that those problems followed an update of some
    sort...i guess most likely a kernel update..

    if that is true, the manual process you are about to undertake would
    not have prevented the problem you had..

    another way to say that: read the 346 pages if you wish and do all you
    want to do now....but, to prevent the problems which _often_ follow
    kernel updates it is a LOT easier to just *not* allow the kernel
    update for a month or MORE....and, during that time visit these forums
    from time to time and see what kinds of problems are turning up due to
    the update..

    sometimes, a week or so after a kernel update there is a huge flurry
    of updates to REPAIR the mess the kernel update caused..

    *remember* you are using openSUSE, the FREE to use system which is the
    *proving ground* (you might think of it as BETA) where Novell's SUSE
    Linux Enterprise releases undergo in service testing...

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    Default Re: Where do I find a driver list?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldie View Post
    ....but, to prevent the problems which _often_ follow kernel updates it is a LOT easier to just *not* allow the kernel update for a month or MORE....and, during that time visit these forums from time to time and see what kinds of problems are turning up due to the update..

    sometimes, a week or so after a kernel update there is a huge flurry of updates to REPAIR the mess the kernel update caused..
    IMHO this is good advice.

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    Default Re: Where do I find a driver list?

    OK, I guess I am new at forums. I install the Computers from Box DVD/CD sets. I do not and disable all Online Updates. I have a couple hundred of these Computers and do not want to run around correcting problems. I do one install with clone and install the rest via autoyast. Saves me a lot of time and nerves. Online Updates will not be done on these Computers, so this is why I want to get it right the first time, while I have the time to do it. Not when the Computer is live.

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    goldie NNTP User

    Default Re: Where do I find a driver list?

    hmmmmm...i think you are operating on the assumption that when 11.1
    was released it was ready to roll just like 9.3 was!

    but, time change....and, while 9.3 was released *when ready* 11.1 was
    released on _the_ date set for it to release seven or eight months
    prior to the *set in concrete* release date...and is now only six
    months into two years of updates, patches, etc..

    remember, way back when SuSE was a little company in Germany making
    software they worked until they got it right and THEN released as
    stable and dependable a product as they could make..

    THEN, Novell bought that little company and set up a *community* (like
    Red Hat set up the Fedora Community) of folks who knowingly
    participate in the PAIN and SUFFERING of beating buggy and BETA
    software into submission....usually through FOUR six month or so
    cycles and THEN release a commercial product (SUSE Linux Enterprise
    Desktop/Server) for SALE *when they are ready*..

    what i'm saying is: this ain't your granddaddy's SuSE--you can be
    certain it IS buggy and all your efforts to "get it right" the first
    time and then NOT update is . . . well, i guess all of those hundred
    machines are not exposed to the internet...because they are gonna miss
    a LOT of security updates and bug fixes in their life!!

    you say you are installing from boxed sets--*if* you are buying a
    boxed set of openSUSE for EACH machine i'd say that is great for this
    community but not so smooth for your 100 machines...you can download
    the disk image and all documentation for nothing (other than your time)..

    and, if you think by coming to this forum you are receiving your paid
    for "90-Day Installation Support" you need to think again, see:
    http://support.novell.com/products/o...e/contact.html
    http://shop.novell.com/DRHM/servlet/...=1250004907756

    my personal opinion is that next time consider buying SLED/SLES and
    keeping them updated via a service contract...that way they can be in
    place far more that the useful life you are now getting hopping from
    10.1 to 10.3 and now 11.1

    folks who bought SLED/S 10 are still running with full support, update
    with confidence, and will for some years more..(there is, of course an
    annual fee...i do not know how much it is in your area...)

    your money, your time, your mileage may vary....ask around..

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    receive ONE CENT if you buy 100 openSUSE in a box or SLED with a
    contract...

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    Default Re: Where do I find a driver list?

    Ok I am not getting anywhere here so I will just close the thread.
    Thank all of you for time.

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