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    Default Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    Hi,
    I've vista pre-installed and installing opensuse11.1 from KDE live CD. I setup disk partitioning as follows:
    sda1- Recovery partition
    sda2- Vista
    sda3- ntfs
    sda4- extended
    sda5- 100MB /boot partition
    sda6- 4GB swap
    sda7- 5GB /tmp
    sda8- 25GB /root partition

    I've 2 issues:
    1. Where should I install GRUB? MBR/sda4/boot?
    2. after confirming all the details, the disk partitoning started and the plasmoid crashed. As a result the installer also exited.
    Now the fdisk gives the following output:
    Code:
    linux@linux:~> sudo /sbin/fdisk -l
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x27c80bf7
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1               1        1394    11193344   27  Unknown
    /dev/sda2   *        1394        9683    66581484    7  HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda3            9683       11901    17817600    7  HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda4           11901       30402   148603904    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
    /dev/sda5           11901       11913       89668   83  Linux
    /dev/sda6           11913       12434     4192933+  83  Linux
    linux@linux:~>
    However the installations shows:
    /dev/sda4 1kB extended 11904(start) 11904(end)
    /dev/sda6 4.00GB linux native 11905(start) 12426(end)

    Can someone help me fix the issue and continue the installation.
    Regards
    Mukul
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    Sony VAIO 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo Laptop

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    Default Re: Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    I created a separate boot partition coz I was following this link:
    YaST/Bootloader MBR - openSUSE
    Regards
    Mukul
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    Default Re: Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    Quote Originally Posted by mukuls View Post
    Hi,
    I've vista pre-installed and installing opensuse11.1 from KDE live CD. I setup disk partitioning as follows:
    sda1- Recovery partition
    sda2- Vista
    sda3- ntfs
    sda4- extended
    sda5- 100MB /boot partition
    sda6- 4GB swap
    sda7- 5GB /tmp
    sda8- 25GB /root partition
    Firstly, I am not quite sure why you have not used the openSUSE defaults; in particular openSUSE normally has a separate /home partition rather than separate /boot and /tmp partitions. The normal reason for having a separate /boot partition is to be able to install GRUB on the first disk when you have Linux on another disk.

    Secondly, did you actually enter all the mount points for the partitions when you set them up?

    Quote Originally Posted by mukuls View Post
    I've 2 issues:
    1. Where should I install GRUB? MBR/sda4/boot?
    openSUSE will normally install GRUB for you as part of the install; stages 1 and 2 go in /boot and the MBR pointer in the MBR which GRUB overwrites. (You don't install anything in sda4; it is just a container for the logical partitions.)

    Quote Originally Posted by mukuls View Post
    2. after confirming all the details, the disk partitoning started and the plasmoid crashed.

    . . .

    Can someone help me fix the issue and continue the installation.
    Unless there is a hard disk fault, the easiest fix is simply to tell openSUSE to repartition the extended partition using the default openSUSE settings; this will overwrite whatever errors have been created the first time around.

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    Default Re: Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    As John_hudson says, decide on what disk space you want to allocate to opensuse and vista, and install. Let suse decide where to install grub and if there are problems, look at Fixing vista multiboot with openSUSE - openSUSE Forums for how to fix them.

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    Default Re: Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    Quote Originally Posted by john_hudson View Post
    Firstly, I am not quite sure why you have not used the openSUSE defaults; in particular openSUSE normally has a separate /home partition rather than separate /boot and /tmp partitions. The normal reason for having a separate /boot partition is to be able to install GRUB on the first disk when you have Linux on another disk.
    I didn't use the default because it suggested me to delete all my drives including C: (sda2) drive on which Vista is installed.

    Quote Originally Posted by john_hudson View Post
    In particular openSUSE normally has a separate /home partition rather than separate /boot and /tmp partitions. The normal reason for having a separate /boot partition is to be able to install GRUB on the first disk when you have Linux on another disk.
    I created a separate boot partition because that's what YaST team lead suggested in the post (YaST/Bootloader MBR - openSUSE). So basically the plan was to put Grub Stage1 in MBR and stage2 in /boot so that on power-on GRUB will activate /boot and I can run Opensuse. Moreover it might help me in multi-boot scenarios as I'll be installing another Linux distro later this year. But if ypu guys suggest I can install it in MBR too.
    Separate /tmp was also created due to multi-boot scenarios so that tmp of various distros don't take unnecessary disk space. They all can share the same tmp partition.

    Quote Originally Posted by john_hudson View Post
    Secondly, did you actually enter all the mount points for the partitions when you set them up?
    Yes, I did mention all the mount points.

    Quote Originally Posted by john_hudson View Post
    openSUSE will normally install GRUB for you as part of the install; stages 1 and 2 go in /boot and the MBR pointer in the MBR which GRUB overwrites. (You don't install anything in sda4; it is just a container for the logical partitions.)
    That's right, it was installing GRUB as part of the install only. But in the summary page I saw that it said it is going to install GRUB in sda4 which is my extended partition.

    Quote Originally Posted by john_hudson View Post
    Unless there is a hard disk fault, the easiest fix is simply to tell openSUSE to repartition the extended partition using the default openSUSE settings; this will overwrite whatever errors have been created the first time around.
    There's no hard disk fault because even now I can boot Vista. The problem with default setting is it's allocating the remaining 150GB to root partition whereas I want only 30GB as root partition. Rest I want to leave unallocated and use it later for the another linux.
    Regards
    Mukul
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    Sony VAIO 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo Laptop

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    Default Re: Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    It sounds to me as if the installer has become confused because it expects either to do all the partitioning itself or to be pointed to a free space on which to install everything; providing it will ready made partitions has confused it.

    I would suggest using Vista to get rid of all the extra partitions and leave one empty space on the hard disk. Then install openSUSE and it should identify the single empty space; if you don't want the default install, then use expert partitioning. But I suspect the reason it wanted a large / partition is that you did not specify a /home partition. So it would be assuming that /home would have to be inside it.

    On a 25Gb default installation, you would normally get about 9Gb for /, swap and the rest as /home.

    (Incidentally, the root partition / is different from the folder /root).

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    Default Re: Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    Quote Originally Posted by john_hudson View Post
    It sounds to me as if the installer has become confused because it expects either to do all the partitioning itself or to be pointed to a free space on which to install everything; providing it will ready made partitions has confused it.

    I would suggest using Vista to get rid of all the extra partitions and leave one empty space on the hard disk. Then install openSUSE and it should identify the single empty space; if you don't want the default install, then use expert partitioning. But I suspect the reason it wanted a large / partition is that you did not specify a /home partition. So it would be assuming that /home would have to be inside it.

    On a 25Gb default installation, you would normally get about 9Gb for /, swap and the rest as /home.

    (Incidentally, the root partition / is different from the folder /root).
    I did get rid of all the partitions and presented 150GB extended partition to openSUSE.
    1. should I give 150GB unallocated space to openSUSE?
    2. should i go ahead with default setting and then shrink the partitions so that I can use the remaining space for other distro?
    Regards
    Mukul
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    Sony VAIO 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo Laptop

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    Default [Solved] Vista+OS11.1 installation issues

    Hey,

    I finally got OS11.1 installed.
    I deleted the logical partitions and the extended partitions. Then I accept the default values except the home partition. Now its up and running.
    Thanks everyone
    Regards
    Mukul
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