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    Question Need guidance. What's next after successful install?

    Hi,

    I just finished a successful installation of openSUSE on my system. I'd like some advice on the next steps to take with regards to maintaining my system.

    I would like to be able to have a method of being able to revert back to my previous settings in case I mess up my system while learning linux, tweaking and fixing devices, etc.

    I am currently using Acronis TrueImage so I can make a backup of the linux partitions [which I will]. But I won't learn anything with that. I'd like to work inside the linux system.

    So any advice is very much welcome. Thanks in advance.

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: Need guidance. What's next after successful install?

    hgfriend3 adjusted his/her AFDB on Friday 17 Jul 2009 15:56 to write:

    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I just finished a successful installation of openSUSE on my system. I'd
    > like some advice on the next steps to take with regards to maintaining
    > my system.
    >
    > I would like to be able to have a method of being able to revert back
    > to my previous settings in case I mess up my system while learning
    > linux, tweaking and fixing devices, etc.
    >
    > I am currently using Acronis TrueImage so I can make a backup of the
    > linux partitions [which I will]. But I won't learn anything with that.
    > I'd like to work inside the linux system.
    >
    > So any advice is very much welcome. Thanks in advance.
    >
    > Cheers!
    >
    >


    To be honest the only thing I back up is my home dir, in all the years I
    have been using linux and all the disk crashes and re-installs the quickest
    way is to do a complete re-install and replace my home dir.

    If you are going to start messing around with the system then just make sure
    you know what you are doing and make backups on the fly, if editing a config
    file then make a copy.

    Except for total hardware failure I do not remember getting the system into
    such a mess that it could not be recovered with tools that are either
    already on the system or are not on a boot/live disk.

    The best advice is never log on as root ( that is a big no-no ) all root
    work can be done from a console with either sudo or su and if it ain`t broke
    don`t fix it.

    If you do want to back-up the system then have a look at :

    man dd

    now that is the down to earth basic, don`t back-up var and tmp and away you
    go, obviously you will want compression and maybe encryption but that all
    depends on what you want so either read the man pages of google it, if you
    use:

    www.ggogle.com/linux

    There is a specific search there that tries to just give linux answers
    instead of all the fluff you get with the main google site.

    HTH

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    Mark
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    > I just finished a successful installation of openSUSE on my system. I'd
    > like some advice on the next steps to take with regards to maintaining
    > my system.


    OP gave good advice, i add:

    the bad news: study!
    the really bad news: there is LOTS to learn..
    the good news: it is mostly free..
    really good news: most folks who know how like to help folks willing
    to help themselves..

    bedside reading:

    official startup guide: http://tinyurl.com/ktvdr9
    concepts: http://en.opensuse.org/Concepts
    docs: http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation
    howto: http://tinyurl.com/ndoxac
    support database: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:SDB
    forum howto: http://forums.opensuse.org/how-faq-read-only/
    generic guts of linux info: http://rute.2038bug.com/
    FREE generic Linux books: http://tinyurl.com/r3wrcr/
    magic help: http://www.google.com/linux
    frustration relief: http://tinyurl.com/8b9s6

    welcome! go slow....don't make a lot of changes right away...when you
    make one live with it a while (that way the thing broken today is
    probably a result of what you did LAST....if you do 15 things and it
    is broke tomorrow, where DO you start?)

    oh and, do complete backups (to guard against failure) if you can't do
    that, AT LEAST backup /home, /etc and /boot

    --
    brassy

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    Default Re: Need guidance. What's next after successful install?

    Bear in mind that Linux programs store user tweaks in hidden files in the user's folder. So, you can normally revert to default by deleting the hidden file and the program will re-create the default file next time it is launched.

    But don't delete the files that, for example, hold all you emails if you have been messing with your email program!

    Unless you know what you are doing or are following an explicit instruction, e.g. in a help file, avoid changing anything which is not in /home.

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    The very first thing I always do after a successful install is setup my software package manager repositories (repos). Specifically 4 repos and only 4 repos. Those 4 are: OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman. There is guidance here how to do that: Repositories - openSUSE-Community

    The odds are OSS, Non-OSS, and Update are already setup and only Packman needs to be added. Again, just those 4. When one is an advanced user and when one knows how to identify problems from adding more than those 4, and how to solve problems from adding more than those 4, then one can add more. Until then, just those 4.

    Once those 4 are added, one can go to YaST > Software > Software management, change the "filter" to "search" and search for and install packman packaged versions of various applications to get 1st rate multimedia (replacing crippled Novell / SuSE-GmbH versions in many cases). One can tell packman packaged versions by the "pm" in the version number of the rpm. I typically recommend installing packman packaged amarok, amarok-xine, amarok-packman, smplayer, libxine1, xine-ui, mplayerplug-in, vlc, libffmpeg0, ffmpeg, w32codec-all, libquicktime0, libxvidcore4, flash-player.

    That should get one started with multimedia.

    Then maybe tune one's desktop.

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    Thank you very much for the inputs. These sure are a boatload but at least I know I'm not in un-chartered waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    The very first thing I always do after a successful install is setup my software package manager repositories (repos). Specifically 4 repos and only 4 repos. Those 4 are: OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman.
    I added the Packman repository but my system already contains the openSUSE-11.1-Debug and Source. Do I remove these 2?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgfriend3 View Post
    I added the Packman repository but my system already contains the openSUSE-11.1-Debug and Source. Do I remove these 2?
    I would leave them in place, but disable them.

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    to oldcpu, I checked just now and the debug and source repositories are disabled by default (the enabled checkbox is unchecked). Thanks.

    I just got my wireless internet connection (brought about by my reading of the startup guide) but I've got some issues.

    The Updater Applet comes up and tells me that I've got 55 updates waiting. Should I ignore it for now? Should I temporarily disable the Updater Applet?

    The Startup Guide also refers to a topic in !Reference. What is this !Reference document?

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgfriend3 View Post
    to oldcpu, I checked just now and the debug and source repositories are disabled by default (the enabled checkbox is unchecked). Thanks.

    I just got my wireless internet connection (brought about by my reading of the startup guide) but I've got some issues.

    The Updater Applet comes up and tells me that I've got 55 updates waiting. Should I ignore it for now? Should I temporarily disable the Updater Applet?
    55 updates ?

    Hmmm ... these updates will likely take a while to download. They may also contain an xorg update and a kernel update. If you are using a proprietary graphic driver, the xorg update could break your graphics, forcing you to re-install the graphic driver. So be prepared for that. Maybe ask a few questions in advance to ensure you understand what you may need to do. A kernel update may break your proprietary graphics driver, your proprietary wireless driver, your sound driver and your webcam driver. Especially wrt your proprietary graphics and your wireless driver, be prepared with the appropriate binaries specific to the updated kernel, to have to install those again.

    Also, back up your /boot/grub/menu.lst file (you will need root permissions to do that) and once backed up, and once you update your kernel, BEFORE you reboot, check the backed up /boot/grub/menu.lst file against the updated version of that file (from the kernel update). Make certain the updates make sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by hgfriend3 View Post
    The Startup Guide also refers to a topic in !Reference. What is this !Reference document?
    I have never heard of a document referred to as !Reference.

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