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  1. #1
    Robert Carlson NNTP User

    Default Empty Trash Bin Issue

    When I right click the trash icon, the empty trash bin menu item is
    grayed out. This problem arose only recently. I am able to delete
    items in the trash, just not in the normal way. No items in the bin
    were or are owned by root--just myself. Same for Trash folder itself.

    11.1 and KDE 3.5

    Bob Carlson

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    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    Hi there. I know exactly what you mean - I've had this small issue some months ago (seems to happen due to "messed up" file permissions)

    Please try to delete all files in there with the following command:

    Code:
    su -
    rm -r [place your trash here]
    exit
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  3. #3
    brassy NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    > --------------------
    >
    > su -
    > rm -r [place your trash here]
    > exit
    >
    > --------------------


    C A U T I O N

    depending on where you are when you issue that command, and exactly
    what you put in in place of that "[place your trash here]" you will
    either:

    1. empty the contents of your trash
    2. empty the trash and throw away the trash can also
    3. delete your entire home directory
    4. delete everything inside the particular partition you happen to be
    in when you entered the magic

    but, in NO case will you have solved the PROBLEM....instead, you will
    have only tried to treat the symptom of the problem (and, if you
    successfully empty the trash ONLY, the problem will remain and you
    will forever have the empty menu item grayed out..)

    sorry, off hand i do not know how to solve the PROBLEM...but, i do
    know i would NOT recommend you "try" that magic at the command line
    (unless you have a current, usable, complete backup of ALL partitions
    in all drives in all machines on any network that you have the root
    password to..

    oh...check and make sure you have both read and write permission to
    the trash...and, the forum's advanced search function will probably
    find a safer means to this end..

    --
    brassy

  4. #4
    Robert Carlson NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    Thanks for the cautionary note Brassy. I did not see how rm -r would do
    anything that a graphical mode delete of the files had done, so I wasn't
    about to try it. In Chris Brown's book on SUSE Linux there is a
    little note about a system administrator of Sun workstations at
    Sheffield University who blew away a whole file system by accidentally
    leaving a space after a slash in his rm -rf command.

    Bob Carlson

    brassy wrote:
    >> --------------------
    >>
    >> su -
    >> rm -r [place your trash here]
    >> exit
    >>
    >> --------------------

    >
    > C A U T I O N
    >
    > depending on where you are when you issue that command, and exactly
    > what you put in in place of that "[place your trash here]" you will
    > either:
    >
    > 1. empty the contents of your trash
    > 2. empty the trash and throw away the trash can also
    > 3. delete your entire home directory
    > 4. delete everything inside the particular partition you happen to be
    > in when you entered the magic
    >
    > but, in NO case will you have solved the PROBLEM....instead, you will
    > have only tried to treat the symptom of the problem (and, if you
    > successfully empty the trash ONLY, the problem will remain and you
    > will forever have the empty menu item grayed out..)
    >
    > sorry, off hand i do not know how to solve the PROBLEM...but, i do
    > know i would NOT recommend you "try" that magic at the command line
    > (unless you have a current, usable, complete backup of ALL partitions
    > in all drives in all machines on any network that you have the root
    > password to..
    >
    > oh...check and make sure you have both read and write permission to
    > the trash...and, the forum's advanced search function will probably
    > find a safer means to this end..
    >


  5. #5
    brassy NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    Robert Carlson wrote:
    > so I wasn't about to try it


    good! one of the great things about this community is the willingness
    of users to help each other....but, one of the bad things is that
    sometimes user's help offered, while it may be perfect if given to a
    seasoned *nix expert, might not be fully understood by questioners
    from all experience levels..

    next, to your problem....have you made any progress...if not i'd
    highly recommend using the forums advanced search function
    <http://forums.opensuse.org/search.php> to find _the_ solution...i am
    SURE i've seen it here in the last year....

    an alternative, and some think better search can be had from google
    using the site specifier, like:

    sitepensuse.org "can't empty trash"
    or
    site:forums.opensuse.org can't empty trash

    just be careful, some 'help' is not.

    --
    brassy

  6. #6
    Robert Carlson NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    brassy wrote:
    > Robert Carlson wrote:
    >> so I wasn't about to try it

    >
    > good! one of the great things about this community is the willingness
    > of users to help each other....but, one of the bad things is that
    > sometimes user's help offered, while it may be perfect if given to a
    > seasoned *nix expert, might not be fully understood by questioners
    > from all experience levels..
    >
    > next, to your problem....have you made any progress...if not i'd
    > highly recommend using the forums advanced search function
    > <http://forums.opensuse.org/search.php> to find _the_ solution...i am
    > SURE i've seen it here in the last year....
    >
    > an alternative, and some think better search can be had from google
    > using the site specifier, like:
    >
    > sitepensuse.org "can't empty trash"
    > or
    > site:forums.opensuse.org can't empty trash
    >
    > just be careful, some 'help' is not.


    My hunch is that it is a KDE 3.5 issue that will never be fixed. I will
    get rid of it when I move to 11.2.

    Bob Carlson

  7. #7
    brassy NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    > My hunch is that it is a KDE 3.5 issue that will never be fixed. I will
    > get rid of it when I move to 11.2.


    Bob, i disagree...because i'm using KDE3.5 (and many others are) and
    have no such problem...so, my hunch it is something to do with YOUR
    setup...which CAN be fixed..

    try this: add a user via YaST > Security and Users > User Management > Add

    maybe a Guest (or whoever...maybe Tester)...then log out as yourself
    and back in as Guest (or Tester)..

    throw something into the Guest's trash (download something small...or
    open Kate or KWrite or whatever and make a one line file)...then see
    if you can't empty the trash....i'm gonna bet you a donut that there
    will be no problem...

    why? because in your first post you said: "This problem arose only
    recently." which almost always means one of two things:

    1. a recent update changed something
    2. the user has done something to change his setup

    and, since no one else has (yet) come here with your complaint, it is
    probably NOT 1 above..

    anyway, if it IS a problem with 3.5 it will NOT be fixed in 11.2
    because there will be NO KDE3 with 11.2, only KDE4..

    HINT to any reading: i routinely (when installing a new system) add a
    Guest and do my very best to NEVER make any changes to the Guest's
    desktop, etc etc etc...i try to not even go there until and unless i
    have a problem in my desktop....that way i can always know (or assume)
    that if (say after an update) my desktop is broken and Guest's is not
    that most likely *i* messed up my desktop, somehow..

    i then get busy trying to remember what i did immediately before "This
    problem arose only recently."

    --
    brassy

  8. #8
    Robert Carlson NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    brassy wrote:
    >> My hunch is that it is a KDE 3.5 issue that will never be fixed. I will
    >> get rid of it when I move to 11.2.

    >
    > Bob, i disagree...because i'm using KDE3.5 (and many others are) and
    > have no such problem...so, my hunch it is something to do with YOUR
    > setup...which CAN be fixed..
    >
    > try this: add a user via YaST > Security and Users > User Management > Add
    >
    > maybe a Guest (or whoever...maybe Tester)...then log out as yourself
    > and back in as Guest (or Tester)..


    Didn't need to do that. What appears to have caused the issue is that
    all the files in the trash were ones deleted in Picasa. I am taking
    pics of insects in my yard, and only a few of them are worth keeping, so
    most get deleted. The pictures get loaded onto my disk via DigiKam, but
    I do the cropping and deleting in Picasa. Nothing else had been in my
    trash for weeks. So I just deleted an Open Office doc to see what would
    happen, and bingo, the Empty Trash menu item was no longer grayed out.

    Given that Picasa runs under WINE, it may be a WINE issue.

    Bob

  9. #9
    brassy NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    wow...interesting...
    have you tried GIMP? if not you probably should..

    and, ever need to (say) change an entire directory of pics to be (say)
    half their current height/width?

    try this:

    mogrify -scale 50% /[path]/*.jpg

    sweet!!

    --
    brassy

  10. #10
    Robert Carlson NNTP User

    Default Re: Empty Trash Bin Issue

    brassy wrote:
    > wow...interesting...
    > have you tried GIMP? if not you probably should..


    Sure. If you right click an image in Picasa and choose Open File, it
    opens in GIMP. I use GIMP to make changes other than simple cropping or
    sharpening. For example, I had a pair of pictures of a gasteruptiid
    wasp with the thorax in focus in one and the gaster in focus in the
    other. In the one picture, I replaced the out of focus gaster with the
    in-focus one. It required some touching up to conceal evidence of the
    copying, and if I enlarge the picture, I can see some signs of that, but
    otherwise not. The GIMP is a good program.

    > and, ever need to (say) change an entire directory of pics to be (say)
    > half their current height/width?
    >
    > try this:
    >
    > mogrify -scale 50% /[path]/*.jpg
    >
    > sweet!!


    Well, I guess it would be if one needs to do that.

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