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    joanmiramontes NNTP User

    Default Is SUSE best Choice for SERVER

    Hi there all,

    I have to mount a server application, so Im on the process to chose the best, more reliable, etc. OS, for the matter.

    i was researching that on the linux world the Ubuntu might be the one.

    I familiarizared with the Suse enviroment, so that is why im asking if the suse 11 is server material. Does it has the apache server, the mysql... etc.

    Also, i know that when linux no bother if it is a pc, also an old one, but what about an old pc, covnerted to a server with linux, i know that there are the installation requirements but, maybe an opinion?

    Or maybe some that has installed, configured same dutie as mine?

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    Default Re: Is SUSE best Choice for SERVER

    I run SUSE servers both at home and at work profesionally. SUSE is a very decent server platform, much better than Ubuntu, IMHO

    Other decent server platforms; Fedora/RHEL, Debian, *BSD

    Yes, it has all the server tools you'd ever need, they are just a few clicks away in the package manager and once you install them, you can remove all the DE related stuff if you have it installed. Or just do a fresh minimal install without DE and include the server stuff

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    Default Re: Is SUSE best Choice for SERVER

    On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 21:36 +0000, joanmiramontes wrote:
    > Hi there all,
    >
    > I have to mount a server application, so Im on the process to chose the
    > best, more reliable, etc. OS, for the matter.
    >
    > i was researching that on the linux world the Ubuntu might be the one.


    Ubuntu? Server? No. Definitely not.
    While the Ubuntu folks are trying to make server distros now, their
    model has been inherently desktop focused and it shows. I would imagine
    a lot of problems with an Ubuntu server.

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    > I familiarizared with the Suse enviroment, so that is why im asking if
    > the suse 11 is server material. Does it has the apache server, the
    > mysql... etc.


    You can make openSUSE fill the server role quite easily. But, how long
    does your server need to last? If you want your server to last many
    years, you need to use SLES instead of openSUSE. Otherwise, you WILL
    have to take some outages for upgrading periodically.

    So... openSUSE is vastly better than Ubuntu on the server side, and SLES
    is a much more stable choice over openSUSE for support and longevity.

    >
    > Also, i know that when linux no bother if it is a pc, also an old one,
    > but what about an old pc, covnerted to a server with linux, i know that
    > there are the installation requirements but, maybe an opinion?
    >
    > Or maybe some that has installed, configured same dutie as mine?


    I have used openSUSE and the older SUSE Professional in server roles in
    the past (for a network of about 300 hosts or so). But support is an
    issue. We switched almost everything over to SLES now... there are a
    few things still left.



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    joanmiramontes NNTP User

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    Cjcox,
    "You can make openSUSE fill the server role quite easily. But, how long
    does your server need to last? If you want your server to last many
    years, you need to use SLES instead of openSUSE. Otherwise, you WILL
    have to take some outages for upgrading periodically.

    So... openSUSE is vastly better than Ubuntu on the server side, and SLES
    is a much more stable choice over openSUSE for support and longevity."

    Do you mean the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server

    I did look that, but it seems that it has a cost. does it?
    ( Linux Server: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server By Novell )

    And for the ubuntu thing,
    this is the one that i was thinkin of
    ubuntu-9.04-server-i386
    so you absolutely recomend SUse instead that one, and the SLES, over Suse.

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    joanmiramontes NNTP User

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    thnks for the advice!
    Im Trying to setup a Open source application for Elecrtonic Medical Records. called open emr.
    And i have like newbbie experience on servers, however i had worked with iis and apache, nothing serious..., but i felt kind of newbbie,

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    Default Re: Is SUSE best Choice for SERVER

    Quote Originally Posted by cjcox View Post
    Ubuntu? Server? No. Definitely not.
    While the Ubuntu folks are trying to make server distros now, their
    model has been inherently desktop focused and it shows. I would imagine
    a lot of problems with an Ubuntu server.
    Sorry, I can't let you get away with this unscientific opinion. You would imagine, you say. That means you don't really have any experience.

    In fact Ubuntu does come in server editions which install without a GUI environment. I have installed and maintained Ubuntu servers and they run just fine. Considering the Debian lineage of the Ubuntu packages, that's no surprise.

    In fact Ubuntu LTS servers are shaping up as a third platform that are supported by enterprise software, in addition to RHEL and SLES, due to the Long Term Support editions.

    The fact is, pretty much any Linux distro can be used a server and server software on Linux is very solid due to the care with which the developers work. The differences between various distros when used as a server are mainly in the quality of the update mechanisms, the ease of installation, any helpful tools for administration, the length of support, the Enterprise support (important if you need a support organisation to rely on), the certification with third-party software (e.g. Oracle, etc).

    I'm sure that there are some server admins out there that swear by Slackware because they know exactly what to do with it. A good admin can get pretty much any distro to work as a server.

    It is in fact in desktops that Linux distro quality is more uneven due to the rapid pace of development in this arena.

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    joanmiramontes NNTP User

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    Ken_Yap

    so you really recomend Ubuntu over SUSE?

    hopefully i got the right version?
    ubuntu-9.04-server-i386

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    I already gave you some factors to consider when choosing a server distro in my posting. You should read and understand them instead of trying to reduce a complex issue to a simple conclusion.

    But if you are going to be maintaining the server for many years, you should consider Enterprise editions, i.e. RHEL, SLES, or Ubuntu LTS (8.04 was a LTS). Or Debian which maintains old versions for many many years.

    If you are just doing this to learn, then suit yourself. openSUSE's LAMP stack is pretty easy to set up.

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    joanmiramontes NNTP User

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    Ok tnks

    No need to hesitate... i just need a prefer this to this answer..

    i think ubuntu is more reliable comparing the arquitecture of the presentation of the OS, ie the ubuntu HAs its ow Server version, thing that on SUse page didnt see, yes is the enterprise solition but i think im not in that phase, since im gonna start this business

    Hope some other people could comment and feedback the thread

    tnks guys.

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    I will add this: what you know about configuring and administering Linux is more important than the exact server distro. Basically it's all Linux underneath.

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