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  1. #1
    brose NNTP User

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    Hello,
    I am new to LINUX and this forum. I am evaluating the feasibility of moving a customer to OES SLED etc from Netware 6.5 and Windoze XP workstations. I have installed OpenSUSE under VMWare for Windoze and need to run IE on LINUX because of a vendor requirement for my customer. When I installed WINE, I get the message thaat "xmessage" is required. I cannot find this anywhere. How do I get this and install it on this SUSe server? I know it must be simple but I am to much of a newbie to find it I guess.

    Thanks,
    Bob

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    Default Re: xmessage

    I get

    dean@linux:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/xmessage
    xorg-x11-7.3-96.4
    So you will need to make sure xorg-x11 package is installed.

  3. #3
    brassy NNTP User

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    > I am new to LINUX and this forum.

    hi Bob,

    i've several thoughts for your considerations..
    i want to address the above point last (so, see LAST below)


    > I am evaluating the feasibility of moving a customer to OES SLED
    > ... I have installed OpenSUSE


    first: openSUSE and SLED are two different things...the latter being
    the grown up, fully mature, tested and "enterprise ready" software
    sold by Novell which grows OUT of the openSUSE community...this
    community serves as the testing grounds for what will someday be
    rolled into SLED *or* thrown out as not good enough!!

    that is, for your purposes i feel it is incorrect to assume that all
    faults (or good things) you see in openSUSE 11.x will also be in SLED 11..

    so, the bad news is: testing openSUSE to prove or disprove your
    customer's potential happiness with SLED is a non-starter to begin with!

    but, the good news is: you are free to use SLED also...for 60
    days...after which security patches and etc are not available without
    purchase...see: http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/eval.html


    > under VMWare for Windoze and need to run IE on LINUX because of a
    > vendor requirement for my customer. When I installed WINE


    second: now wait a nano-second!

    you wanna run IE _in_ WINE _in_ openSUSE _in_ VMWare _in_ Windows to
    try to learn if your customer can be moved to SLED (running native, on
    a real machine)??

    boggles the mind--WOW, if you find you like the way IE performs in
    THAT situation you are gonna get seasick from the speed of Opera or
    Firefox running native in SLED!!

    third: if your customer _requires_ IE7 today, s/he is probably gonna
    require IE8 tomorrow....assuming you are able to coax IE7 to run
    today, does NOT insure that IE8 will ever run well [you do know that
    MS spends considerable time making sure that new releases do NOT run
    well in the current state of WINE, don't you?? and that it may be
    years of reverse engineering WINE before IE8 runs well, if EVER!!]

    hint: try to figure out why your customer can't run Firefox with the
    add-on named "User Agent Switcher" making it pretend to be IE7 or IE8,
    and if you find s/he is truly "locked in" to MS, then....guess what!


    > I know it must be simple but I am to much of a newbie to
    > find it I guess.


    simple? no, i doubt you will find it simple to perform the test you
    have set out to do, and reach a fair and correct decision..

    i guess that a person who has a strong background in Win Netware and
    *nix _might_ find it simple if s/he began by running SLED *directly*
    on real hardware (the customer's real hardware)...well, it would be
    simple until you throw in that IE _requirement_ then it complicates a
    bit..

    LAST--back to the top point: i guess to make a comprehensive test of
    the feasibility of moving a client from Netware+XP to SLED is gonna
    need the help of a real live SLED expert very near your elbow....and,
    unfortunately those are scarce as hens teeth around here....this is
    the openSUSE forum, you probably ought to (imho) start over by
    downloading SLED _and_ posting your next question in
    http://forums.novell.com/

    fact is, if your customer is large enough, you might find that Novell
    will fall all over itself to HELP you come to a much more balanced
    view than you can possibly get from running IE in wine in openSUSE in
    VMWare in Wind0z..

    i'm just trying to be helpful...ymmv and my opinion may stink...you
    decide.

    --
    brassy

  4. #4
    brose NNTP User

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    Thanks brassy,

    I have now installed SLED under VMWARE on WIN XP pro. I was able to get IE6 to run on OpenSUSE but it would not work on the site required by my customer. It seems to work on every other site but YARDI. The machine I am testing on is a new machine which does belong to the customer. I may fool around with it a little more and if I cannot get it to work, I'll try loading SLED natively. My customer owns 25 SLED licenses and SLES licenses also. I solved my 1st problem "xmessage" by using the "repository" and pointing it to openSUSE web site.

    I will try the "User Agent Switcher" as I have FireFox on all of their machines. Did not know about the agent!

    Thanks:
    Bob

    PS will follow your advise on which forum to use.

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